J-15 carrier fighter thread
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The aircraft is flying on the wrong side of the centerline.
it really wouldn't be that surprising to see it in terms of "is the aircraft able to physically take off" from the carrier or not. it should be able to take off from the forward positions with a high payload as well with normal operating headwind.
what would be "unique" about having four AShMs, is that it is generally rare for any tactical strike/fighter aircraft to carry four AShMs regularly.
we rarely see JH-7/As carry four AShMs/stand off missiles at once, even despite anti shipping and stand off strike being one of its primary roles, and for example, even the f-18/f only qualified with a quad harpoon loadout in 2013
I think the truth of the matter is that it's relatively rare for most tactical aircraft (especially carrier based aircraft) to do typical sorties with MTOW topped-out payloads, and definitely rare for an aircraft to carry four ashm/stand off type weapons at once on a typical mission unless it is a deliberate qualifying/integration test.
Well, I don't think it's very surprising either, but there have been some on here who question if it can even take off with a full CAP load. BTW, he also mentioned that the MTOW from the forward positions is roughly 28.7t, which I think is consistent with actual data we've read and would mean that it can take off with full fuel load as well as 4 YJ-83s and 2 PL-10's. He also said that it can land in sea state 5 with low visibility, which I have no idea if is good or not.
Oh yes -- well there will always be people on here who believe STOBAR = low payload.
One day if we get a video of J-15 taking off from Liaoning or 001A with a full load of YJ-83s, MRAAMs, SRAAMs and basically every hardpoint brimming with the heaviest munition it can accommodate, I bet there will still be people who will say "it can only take off with those heavy external loads because it has very low internal fuel, meaning it has short range" or something along those lines.
I've accepted many years ago that it will be impossible to "convince" people of that because there is a limit to how open the Chinese military will be and there is no real limit for some people to continue holding their beliefs in absence of something which definitively proves them wrong, even if common sense would suggest their positions are unlikely.
And yes, 28.7 tons definitely corresponds close with that scans of info we had from a few years back, which I reposted in summary here: https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/stobar-aircraft-ski-jump-performance-su-33-j-15.t8043/
sea state 5 with low vis as well I think would be quite respectable. I imagine there are aircraft which can land in more severe sea states and even lower visibility depending on the pilot and/or if they have enough goes at it, so sea state 5 probably reflects the upper most "standard" limit on the aircraft.
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Oh, yes, I'm such a man.
how disappointing.
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