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It looks like there's 3 J-10Cs (blue) and 1 J-16(larger blue) vs 2 J-20s (red) in the exercise.
J-16D. It messed with J-20’s sensors so that it couldn’t PL-15/16 the AWAC and disrupt the kill chain.
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It looks like there's 3 J-10Cs (blue) and 1 J-16(larger blue) vs 2 J-20s (red) in the exercise.
That J-16D is a menace. Gave both the Type 055 and J20 a major headache. I think I severely underestimated the J-16D. Can't imagine the EW specs on the J-36 if a 4.5 Gen could do this.J-16D. It messed with J-20’s sensors so that it couldn’t PL-15/16 the AWAC and disrupt the kill chain.
I thought mixing EW and stealth in one plane was a no noThat J-16D is a menace. Gave both the Type 055 and J20 a major headache. I think I severely underestimated the J-16D. Can't imagine the EW specs on the J-36 if a 4.5 Gen could do this.
Why? One plane just appears out of nowhere and starts jamming. Probably timed at an unfortunate moment for you. You start addressing it but then another plane, at a different location, starts jamming, while the first one stops. You lose the track of the first one.I thought mixing EW and stealth in one plane was a no no
In pure stealth mode, your enemy don't know you are there until you kill his mate. They still have the directional sensors guiding them where to run.I thought mixing EW and stealth in one plane was a no no
Are there more details about this engagement?
Nope. Other than involvement of EW aircraft.
It looks like there's 3 J-10Cs (blue) and 1 J-16(larger blue) vs 2 J-20s (red) in the exercise.
J-16D. It messed with J-20’s sensors so that it couldn’t PL-15/16 the AWAC and disrupt the kill chain.
J-16D jamming LPI/LPD AESA radars? Spectra never stood a chance.J-16D. It messed with J-20’s sensors so that it couldn’t PL-15/16 the AWAC and disrupt the kill chain.
The PLAAF has been actively pursuing such TTPs for countering 5th gen threats with "legacy platforms" since the 2000s, but things didn't kick into high gear until the 2010s when the J-10C, KJ-500, DWL002 and what not entered service.
The PLAAF isn't too keen about publicizing its TTPs, even if they've "been around for a minute." Guessing they're opening up now because:
1. Every major power is now openly pursuing cooperative engagement capabilities. No reason for China to pretend the PLA isn't.
2. The PAF's recent success in applying such TTPs — pioneered and passed on by the PLAAF — against 4th and 4½ gen IAF fighters on May 7, 2025 made it even more moot than before for the Chinese authorities to stay mum.
Any idea if any of the 高新 series (and/or the J-16D) were or are equipped with sensors (e.g. passive TDOA, FDOA, etc.) specific to counter-stealth mission sets?
J-16D doesn’t even have IRST if I recall correctly.