J-10 Thread IV

[siegecrossbow]

Aircraft is real but the nozzle is not. I’ve seen similar things done to a blue angels F-18 on static display.

 

[sequ]

Well if you believe this article, the PL-15E in PAF service has a range of between 230-280km and they took a shot at 190km during 6-7th may:

"During this offensive, the PAF used J-10C jets, which were equipped with PL-15 missiles. It is pertinent to mention here that the range bearing of these missiles is between 230km and 280km, and according to sources, the longest shot taken by Pakistan’s jets on that night was 98 nautical miles, which means India’s jets were targeted from the distance of 190km."

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[siegecrossbow]

Well if you believe this article, the PL-15E in PAF service has a range of between 230-280km and they took a shot at 190km during 6-7th may:

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By exclusive sources they might have meant forums or worse, Twitter…

 

[sequ]

By exclusive sources they might have meant forums or worse, Twitter…

Well it's a legit newsplatform so the sources might be more official than one thinks.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Well it's a legit newsplatform so the sources might be more official than one thinks.

If the target is head on at altitude at high relative velocity differential maybe it is possible? Otherwise I’m not sure.

It does goes to show that raw aircraft performance still matters in this day and age — faster you go, the higher the fly, the longer the range of your weapon.

 

[sequ]

If the target is head on at altitude at high relative velocity differential maybe it is possible? Otherwise I’m not sure.

It does goes to show that raw aircraft performance still matters in this day and age — faster you go, the higher the fly, the longer the range of your weapon.

I think there is more to it than 145km

 

[Gloire_bb]

If the target is head on at altitude at high relative velocity differential maybe it is possible? Otherwise I’m not sure.

It does goes to show that raw aircraft performance still matters in this day and age — faster you go, the higher the fly, the longer the range of your weapon.

Yep, our initial source on dual burn AAMs(which we mostly assume as indication on PL-15 performance) explored 180km shot from just over mach 1 at a cooperative target at just mach 0.8, both at medium altitude.
Adding just 10 km by increasing V0 and H0 should be totally doable. The question is of course how Indians missed it(missile takes quite a while to reach interception point, it's measured in minutes). Or, maybe, that's exactly how - launch happened too far to be registered(maybe indiands considered J-10 launch maneuvers as just a demonstration and/or aimed at another group?), and for one reason or another neither GC nor SPECTRA picked up missiles in flight.
That's quite a lot of failure points - it's totally explainable if J-10s launched silently and/or in hunter-killer teams. But then?

 

[Deino]

Is it a real aircraft or mock-up? The nozzle seems to remind me of the TVC demonstrator.

The aircraft is IMO real - AFAIR it was one of the early prototypes - but the nozzle is a mock-up or even faked replic of a TVC-nozzle.

 

[pokepara]

"Something something unstoppable force..... something something immovable object"

"When pedantics collide, infinity arise"

That's how you get good info though.

Well if you believe this article, the PL-15E in PAF service has a range of between 230-280km and they took a shot at 190km during 6-7th may:

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Hmm, they don't make a distinction about the export model of PL-15 or make any mention of the PL-15e at all.

 

[johncliu88]

According to some news media, J-10C will be in Paris Air Show next month. Some TW media said it will be placed right next to the Rafale's both. This will be very interesting to see the faces of the French.

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