J-10 Thread IV

Viperzero

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So apparently there was a defector in the early 90s that provided design documents to the US. Does anyone know about this story? I found a very old Key topic that mentioned it happened in 92 with no details.
 

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Rast

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You don’t think the JF-17 has a shot? Congo is poor but it has lots of resources.

Poor has many aspects to it. Algeria, Morocco, and Egypt are poor, yet these are African countries that have the capacity to maintain large effective modern militaries including modern air forces. North African countries for all their problems are infinitely more competent and capable than sub-Saharan African countries. Even for sub-Saharan Africa, the Democratic Republic of Congo is poor and completely dysfunctional. A large portion of the wealth from extraction is either lost to internal corruption or given away to foreign mining companies.

More on the systemic dysfunction, the DRC is fighting a rebellion in the east against a militia equipped primarily with AK's and pick up trucks, and the DRC nearly lost a few years ago. Their only plan to fight the rebels recently was bribing the other competing groups of anti-government militias to fight for the DRC and to throw waves of poorly trained civilian militias with rusty AK's at the problem because the DRC's actual army is incapable of fighting a small regional rebellion by themselves. This plan has not worked, and now there is another group rebelling in the region. The DRC was reduced to begging their neighbors Angola, Burundi, and Kenya to send their troops to help fight the small rebel militia groups. That has not gone that well and Uganda and South Sudan will also now send troops. If you have been keeping count, it is now six allied sub-Saharan countries that have so far failed to stop small rebellions in the DRC.
 

by78

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A few more from Pakistan.

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Deino

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Hi, what's the general consensus on J-10C's RCS?
I think J-10C is better than Rafale due to DSI intake considering they are on par of material and coating & similar layout.
How accurate is this for a simulation?
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There si none and almost - as per my understanding in fact ALL - such fan-made videos have no value.

As such, please leave it and stop posting such ones.
 

Viperzero

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Hi, what's the general consensus on J-10C's RCS?
I think J-10C is better than Rafale due to DSI intake considering they are on par of material and coating & similar layout.
How accurate is this for a simulation?
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I think the Rafale has an S duct though, that is also very helpful for signatures. I’ve heard 1sq meter for the J-10 and anywhere from .01-1 for the Rafale (I think the higher number is more realistically). I think the real difference between the two though is negligible though. Unless you have order of magnitude differences, detection distances with be similar. If they have any sort of load or aren’t looking strait on those numbers will shoot up. Honestly it’s weird how well matched the J-10 and Rafale are in air to air. I think the J-10 having some 200 more T/R modules in its radar is a more important advantage in this case.
 

Schwerter_

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Hi, what's the general consensus on J-10C's RCS?
I think J-10C is better than Rafale due to DSI intake considering they are on par of material and coating & similar layout.
How accurate is this for a simulation?
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RCS is such a complicated topic there's very little point in making comparisons in the absense of highly accurate models & a RCS test chamber or at the very least a competent simulation software. DCS is not such a software and the current mods in dcs makes very little effort in modeling the real radar signatures of different aircrafts.

I'd also like to point out that this youtube channel is know within the DCS community for spamming low quality videos, don't take anything they "simulate" seriously.
 
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minusone

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The future of stealth tech lies in the coating materials.

J10C >>> Rafale in both shaping and coating material
 
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