J-10 Thread IV

[Deino]

Hi Jeff ... thanks a lot for Your efforts to explain the differences between an "A" and the new "B" however let me add a few things and most of all ....

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J-10A versus J-10B Differences
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Where the heck did You find this image !???? It's a conceptual drawing I made together with a very good friend of mine - namely J.P. Santiago - why I met at first at the What-If-Forum, and who helped me for my very first published reports in the German "FliegerRevue" with several profiles.

This one is actually based on his J-10A and J-10S profile and was created on "Thuesday, ‎24. ‎March ‎2009, ‏‎17:33:12" modified by myself in preparation for the very first J-10B report. As far as I know we even made the first quite reliable J-10B report.

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Altogether he made several different J-10-profiles including the white first prototype, the later ones 1003 to 1006, the pre-serials and the very first serial aircraft delivered to the 44. FD .... to admit I still miss that work with him, we later expanded for all the "Failed Chinese Fighters" in my book "Dragon's Wings".

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J-10BS, tandem seat
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Here I have to correct Your post. It is not a photoshoped image of an J-10AS + a J-10B but simply a CG, that was made by the almost famous CG-artist "Gaoshan" and came out even before the very first J-10B photo was published ...

Deino

 

[delft]

I've always been impressed by the F-8U3.

 

[Jeff Head]

Where the heck did You find this image !???? It's a conceptual drawing I made together with a very good friend of mine - namely J.P. Santiago - why I met at first at the What-If-Forum, and who helped me for my very first published reports in the German "FliegerRevue" with several profiles.

This one is actually based on his J-10A and J-10S profile and was created on "Thuesday, ‎24. ‎March ‎2009, ‏‎17:33:12" modified by myself in preparation for the very first J-10B report. As far as I know we even made the first quite reliable J-10B report.

I found it on a Chinese site some time ago and saved it. can't remember which one.

Should I put a credit on it now that I know whose it is? This is the first time I have posted it anywhere.

Here I have to correct Your post. It is not a photoshoped image of an J-10AS + a J-10B but simply a CG, that was made by the almost famous CG-artist "Gaoshan" and came out even before the very first J-10B photo was published ...

Deino

No problem my friend. I saw that it was not a J-10BS, but had no idea who made it. I figured I might be PS'ed, but as a CG, it is very good. Having it done before the first J-10B was completed explains a lot.

Thanks for the correction and the info. I knew you would straighten any inconsistencies out for us.

Question?

Are there any J-10BS flying? Do you know of a good pic of one?

 

[Deino]

No You surely do not need to give credit, but I think it's always interesting to know where a certain images comes from.

Regarding the J-10BS, there is so far none ... not sure why - most likely CAC or the PLAAF wanted to wait until the B is fully integrated - and I know only one psed image.

Deino

 

[siegecrossbow]

J-10B fighters sure look the part, but how they'd perform in actual combat is anyone's guess. Great looking machines, to be sure.

I think it is commonly agreed upon that the DSI inlet and drooped nose increased the plane's "sex-appeal".

 

[thunderchief]

4. Not as visible to the untrained eye, but the "B" has a new AESA radar. The nose cone for the Chinese aircraft usually differs in color for different radars.

About that color code for radars, I asked the same questions here on SDF some time ago, but knowledgeable folks told me it's just a myth .

But if there is new AESA radar, I would like to know some specs .

 

[SinoSoldier]

About that color code for radars, I asked the same questions here on SDF some time ago, but knowledgeable folks told me it's just a myth .

But if there is new AESA radar, I would like to know some specs .

The "B" variant was initially equipped with a PESA radar, but switched to an active phased array radar once the jet hit production.







Hope that helped clear up the rumor.

 

[thunderchief]

The "B" variant was initially equipped with a PESA radar, but switched to an active phased array radar once the jet hit production.

Thank you . Could you please translate some basic specifications of this new radar ?

 

[SinoSoldier]

Thank you . Could you please translate some basic specifications of this new radar ?

My grasp of the Chinese language is as good as yours; from several rumors, the radar has 1152 T/R channels and is considered a "1.5 generation" radar within Chinese military parlance.

 

[thunderchief]

My grasp of the Chinese language is as good as yours; from several rumors, the radar has 1152 T/R channels and is considered a "1.5 generation" radar based within Chinese military parlance.

Well, I think it's somewhat better Thank you again .