J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

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asif iqbal

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Interesting, but given how much these numbers are blurred it could be a "9", an "8", a "5" or even a "3" ... what could all mean the 8., the 7., the 4. (however this does not make sense) and YES, the 2. Division.

In the end You are correct, we'll have to wait .... but I don't want to wait any longer. :mad:

Deino

Yes I agree and on my file I am using photo editor on iOS8 on ipad and when it clear up the image I can see the numbers almost clear unfortunately by the time they go through photo bucket they look blurred again o_O
 

thunderchief

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Could somebody summarize situation with J-10 B :

- number of produced (serial) aircraft is 48 ?
- radar is MS (same as on J-10 A ? ) or PESA ?
- engine is AL-31FN Series 3 ?
- main difference between J-10C and J-10B is radar (AESA on J-10 C ) ?
- number of produced test units of J-10 C is 2 ?
 

Scyth

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Let me rephrase my question a bit: are there any indications of how much T/R modules AESA radars have on the J-10 (if it carries one, regardless of it's variant B/C)?
 

Franklin

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Something is definitely going on with that 201 plane. It suppose to be the first plane of the second batch. But how long have they been testing that plane ? We are talking about months so that means there are alot of new systems they need to test. I don't know if its the radar or if its deserves a new designation like J-10C. But I think the technical jump from the first to the second batch is quite significant.
 

Deino

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Well, rumors confirmed or sure, pictures prove it ? btw because Huitong say possibly for the 2 units... ;)


Yes, ... the number of manufactured J-10Bs alone are reason to assume - or even to be sure - that there are already two units. But what unit, here we are not 100% for sure since these images are so much blurred ... anyway it looks "most likely" like a 78x1x what would be the 170. Brigade FTTC.

J-10B + serials - maybe 78x1x - 170. Brigade FTTC - 1.jpg



Could somebody summarize situation with J-10 B :

- number of produced (serial) aircraft is 48 ?
- radar is MS (same as on J-10 A ? ) or PESA ?
- engine is AL-31FN Series 3 ?
- main difference between J-10C and J-10B is radar (AESA on J-10 C ) ?
- number of produced test units of J-10 C is 2 ?

- confirmed 48 serials; some say even no. 53 has been spotted already (what would surprise me since usually production blocks for the A-model were much smaller) ... or could be 48 + the 5 prototypes ... however here I think we also had 4 additional pre-serials.
- MS ??? the J-10A uses a Type 1473 PD-type ... the J-10B - if PESA or AESA is different question - uses a new and different radar.
- engines, YES ... the AL-31FN Series 3
- not sure if there is a C !?? ... IMO it is a one-off prototype most likely IMO from the newly converted manufacturing line since the J-7-line was closed. As such I don't believe these reports about a J-10C only after a few J-10B. IMO these are all B-models so far.

Just my two cents,
Deino
 

asif iqbal

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Yeah if there is a J10C then surely it should differ quite a lot from the J10B? I mean it's the next iteration

And if this is the only batch of J10B and J10C is going to have WS-engine then why is there is a series 3 Al-31 powering the current J10C? Doesn't make sense

Making large batchs of aircraft brings down the unit price and when you are building it's hard to stop building so having 48 units in a batch does makese sense the longer the run the lower the cost

Plus it's shown that Chinese can build a very modern platform in large numbers and get then out into the regiments in a pretty short time scale

Either way J10B is now deployed into Regiments and let's hope we see batch 02 in 2015
 

thunderchief

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- confirmed 48 serials; some say even no. 53 has been spotted already (what would surprise me since usually production blocks for the A-model were much smaller) ... or could be 48 + the 5 prototypes ... however here I think we also had 4 additional pre-serials.
- MS ??? the J-10A uses a Type 1473 PD-type ... the J-10B - if PESA or AESA is different question - uses a new and different radar.
- engines, YES ... the AL-31FN Series 3
- not sure if there is a C !?? ... IMO it is a one-off prototype most likely IMO from the newly converted manufacturing line since the J-7-line was closed. As such I don't believe these reports about a J-10C only after a few J-10B. IMO these are all B-models so far.

Just my two cents,
Deino

Thanks for the answer . MS = mechanically steered (antenna and beam) as apposed to active or passive electronically scanned array .
 

HeQin

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hey guys i want to ask did j-10b already has MAWS? and what kind of MAWS they using... pulse doppler, infra red or ultra violet? thanks
 
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