Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

As is Archeo-logical, "Yahweh" came up from the south (Judges 5,4)

"Moses" father-in-law is an Arab priest (Exodus 3,1) and "Mount Sinai is in Arabia" (Paul of Tarsus, Galatian 4,25)

And the great Temple was not built by a rabbi from New York or from Poland or Ukraine from a medieval ethnic group forged by rabbis, the Yiddish People, but by an Arab king, Herod "the Great", son of "the Idumean" and a princess of Petra.

What happened to "the people of the land" ("am ha'eretz") of "the land of Canaan"

What happened to those Arabs whom the scribes of the Egyptian Empire called "Hebrews"

Well, they became Muslims, on the one hand, for tax reasons, and on the other, because their religious culture was neither the Priestly judaism of the Sadducean Oligarchy nor medieval Rabbinic Judaism, but something very close and very similar to early Islam.

And the circle came full circle because "Yahweh" is a deity of some Arab tribes.

Israel Belkind, Ber Borochov, David Ben-Gurion, Itzhak Ben-Zvi ...

A good handful of Zionists knew that the Palestinians were descendants of the Hebrews.

In fact, they were surprised to see how the Palestinians maintained many traits of Hebrew culture.

But when the european Zionist saw that the local population did not accept the colonization of their new European masters, all of this was forgotten and covered up, and the old Christian legend was insisted upon: the legend of the Exile.

The damned Christian legend says: "those in Jerusalem condemned him", and HaShem became so so so angry with them that he destroyed their Temple, packed his bags, and left Jerusalem for Rome. And scattered them throughout the empire

The legend of the Exile is a Christian tale, a tale for Christian children that the rabbis accepted because it suited them. Later, the Zionists would insist on this tale for Chistian chidren

It's as if, in two thousand years, the people of Saudi Arabia became readers of The Lord of the Rings and some violent fanatics arrived from Indonesia saying: We are from Mecca, Mecca is our ancestral homeland, and you are going to understand and acept it with massacres.

It's as if some Argentine Catholics claimed the lands that were once Vatican lands (Papal States) and unleashed terror on the local population, the Italians, and after expelling 700,000 Italians (1947-) the bulk of the Italians of the old Papal States were in ghettos (1967-) without civil rights and under military domination of artillery and aviation plus the usual raids to capture hostages, of course ghettos with autonomous administration like the Warsaw ghetto.

It is known that Palestinians are more related to the original canaanites and israelite populations than the current population of Israel, they just converted to islam and christianity centuries ago.

Trying to "arabize" them is just part of the script to boost jewish supremacy, for the same reason the Mizrahi classification exists to try to separate arab jews from the rest of the arabs, as if they are that distinct.

sheogorath said:

It is known that Palestinians are more related to the original canaanites and israelite populations than the current population of Israel, they just converted to islam and christianity centuries ago.

Trying to "arabize" them is just part of the script to boost jewish supremacy, for the same reason the Mizrahi classication exists to try to separate arab jews from the rest of the arabs, as if they are that distinct.

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Nationalism is powerful, but the problem is it eventually makes you a dumb hysterical animal. Now Israeli society appears to be majority dumb, weepy barbarians. One thing Palestine maintained was its dignity, can't say that for Israel.

Very classy and humane

sanctionsevader said:

Nationalism is powerful, but the problem is it eventually makes you a dumb hysterical animal. Now Israeli society appears to be majority dumb, weepy barbarians. One thing Palestine maintained was its dignity, can't say that for Israel.

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And how many divisions, how many missiles, and how many soldiers will dignity mobilize for the Palestinians? The reality is this: Palestinians in Gaza will be ethnically cleansed. Once Gaza is finished, the Israelis will move on to the West Bank. Is it moral? No, but who cares? Morality is ultimately defined by those in power. And Israel, for better or worse, is in power. If no one makes Israel feel the consequences of her actions and so far, those consequences are insufficient to deter Israel's actions, who cares if ethnic cleansing or genocide is wrong?

You want to stop Israel's genocide? How many nuclear detonations are you willing to manifest in Tel Aviv? How many PGM can you manifest on high value Israeli military targets? How many thermobaric weapons can you detonate above smaller Israeli settlements?

At the end of the day, the only thing that is valuable is power. The Israelis have it. The ones against them either don't have it at all, or are unwilling to utilize it. Palestinians are ultimately guilty of the only crime that really matters. They are guilty of being weak. It's the same crime that Syria is guilty of, and will be the same crime Iran will be guilty of if it isn't careful. And if you are weak, you will be exterminated, absorbed, annihilated, etc. at some point.

All this screaming and gnashing of teeth against the Israeli's is pointless and merely cathartic release for the weak.

So the US has bailed out on the Red Sea, sitting down at the table with Houthis where a ceasefire has been signed. Art of the deal or something

sheogorath said:

So the US has bailed out on the Red Sea, sitting down at the table with Houthis where a ceasefire has been signed. Art of the deal or something

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1919818333056020540

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The Israeli political establishment are in shock. Trump essentially is letting Yemen have its way with Israel. Despite all the bombardment and air strikes Ansar Allah was able to fire a ballistic missile at Ben Guiron airport. Highlighting the limits of air power. Israel is bombing multiple places all at once. It’s planning the “conquest” of Gaza at a time where Hamas and the other Gaza resistance have totally replaced their losses in some cases having more manpower now than before. Unlike what Israel did the last 18 months of going to an area and then withdrawing they plan to hold territory. They are going to take sustained losses. That the main reasons why the IDF would withdraw from various points in Gaza. Now they plan to occupy parts of Gaza. As long they do nothing about the tunnels they won’t be able to hold ground. They will take serious attrition especially if they send poorly trained and poorly motivated to hold areas. It will slow bleed the Israeli forces. And they have forces still in parts of south Lebanon/northern Israel,southern Syria and the West Bank. This isn’t a sustainable for a small nation like Israel. Sooner than later they’ll collapse from all these multiple commitments.