Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

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Gatekeeper

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Avtually Peters is Maori who have a concern that Asians might outnumber the indigenous Maoris in their own land in the not to distant future. Maoris make up 15% and Asians, close to 12%
BRADY I is married to a Chinese.
BRADY with the help of defected diplomat Chen Yonglin outed a Nz chinese M.P. Jiang Yang.
In short they refuted Yangs story that he had resigned his membership of the CCP. Since Yang once worked for Chinas security service .........she suggesting he could.be a plant.

It really doesn't matter what their racial background is. Xenophobia is xenophobia regardless what one's racial background.
And it still doesn't make sense to upset your biggest customer, and for what?
 
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taxiya

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It really doesn't matter what their racial background is. Xenophobia is xenophobia regardless what one's racial background.
Very true.
And it still doesn't make sense to upset your biggest customer, and for what?
It doesn't make sense for the people who benefit by trading with China. However, it does no harm to people who don't trade with China, it makes perfect sense for a portion of that people who benefit to sabotage trading with China when their interest is somewhere else.

It is a democracy where every parts of the population speak only for themselves for a near term benefit at the cost of others. There is no unified people and unified interest.
 

Gatekeeper

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Very true.

It doesn't make sense for the people who benefit by trading with China. However, it does no harm to people who don't trade with China, it makes perfect sense for a portion of that people who benefit to sabotage trading with China when their interest is somewhere else.

It is a democracy where every parts of the population speak only for themselves for a near term benefit at the cost of others. There is no unified people and unified interest.

I supposed you are right. But is going to hurt their economy if nothing else
 

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See? Canadians are learning. They're not lightning fast learners but eventually, they start moving in the right direction.

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Fed up Canada tells U.S. to help with China crisis or forget about favors
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By David Ljunggren
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•May 5, 2019

In a sign of increasing frustration at what it sees as a lackluster U.S. response, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government is signaling it could withhold cooperation on major issues.

China has upped the pressure on Canada in recent weeks over the arrest of Huawei Technologies Co Ltd Chief Financial Officer Meng Wanzhou, arrested last December on a U.S. warrant. It halted Canadian canola imports and last week suspended the permits of two major pork producers.

After Meng's Vancouver arrest, Chinese police also detained two Canadian citizens.

Beijing is refusing to allow a Canadian trade delegation to visit, forcing officials to use video conference calls as they try to negate a major threat to commodity exports.

With no cards to play against China without risking significant economic damage, Canada has launched a full-court press in Washington, which is negotiating its own trade deal with Beijing.

The results have been meager.

"It's a very challenging situation. When we raise it with the Americans they just say, 'Dealing with the Chinese is tough'," said a Canadian government source.

Canada says the United States is obliged to help, given that the U.S. arrest warrant triggered the crisis with Beijing.

Canada's U.S. ambassador David MacNaughton,
who noted Canada has assisted the current U.S. administration on diplomatic efforts with Venezuela, Latvia and NATO, strongly suggested future requests for aid would not be met so positively unless Washington cooperated more.
 

Jono

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Canadian speaking out at Global Brief concerning the China-Canada crisis ( including Ms. Meng's detention at the behest of US ) and his views on the solution of it. I think the video is worth watching. US has similar extradition treaties with over a hundred nations, and if China doesn't react strongly and make an example of Canada, her business people and officials are at the mercy of US when they travel abroad.
 
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Dark clouds hang over Huawei case
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The Huawei case is still pending. However, the recent developments related to the case are really intriguing.

While a meeting in Prague on May 2, 2019, saw the United States push its allies to adopt shared security policy and establish a united front against Huawei in the application of 5G technology, the Federal Prosecutor of the Eastern District of New York was found on the same day to submit a confidential motion to the Federal District Court for the Eastern District of New York,
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, currently a partner at Sidley Austin.

If the strategy to deny Huawei the access to representation by top lawyers like Mr. Cole turns out to be a successful one, it will be damaging to Huawei. After all, for a foreign company targeted by the Appareil d'Etat of the world's most powerful country, being represented by an experienced lawyer means the hope in the face of the unparalleled legal battle.

The prosecution has disclosed that the U.S. collected the evidence in accordance with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Law by secretly tracking Huawei's activities, including its executives at the U.S. airport, copying their information in electronic devices.

It was Mr. Cole that pleaded not guilty on behalf of Huawei and its U.S. subsidiary in the Federal District Court, which instilled a sense of confidence in Huawei about the criminal indictment.

The core issue of the case is whether Meng Wanzhou and Huawei deceived HSBC and other banks by concealing the actual relationship between Huawei and Skycom Tech Co Ltd.

While Huawei argued that Skycom was a local partner, the U.S. authorities accused the company of being an informal subsidiary of Huawei for its operations in Iran. The U.S. accused Huawei of using Skycom to provide Iran with embargoed U.S. goods, technology and services, and transferring funds through the international banking system. Confronted by the tough measures taken by the U.S. authorities, Huawei in a way counted on Mr. Cole substantially.

Mr. Cole, a seasoned compliance lawyer, served as Deputy Attorney-General from 2011 to 2015. It was at this stage that the United States investigated Huawei and obtained information about Huawei's alleged violation of U.S. sanctions against Iran.

Although the motion has not been made public, it is logical to think in the eyes of the U.S., Mr. Cole might be involved in this investigation personally and substantially or/and might have accessed the confidential government information, which is unfavorable to the U.S. government in this case.

According to the Code of the American Bar Association, a lawyer who has formerly served as a public officer or employee of the government shall not otherwise represent a client in connection with a matter in which the lawyer participated personally and substantially as a public officer or employee, unless the appropriate government agency gives its informed consent, confirmed in writing, to the representation.

Similarly, a lawyer having information that the lawyer knows is confidential government information about a person acquired when the lawyer was a public officer or employee, may not represent a private client whose interests are adverse to that person in a matter in which the information could be used to the material disadvantage of that person.

In light of these well-crafted regulations on the lawyer-client relationship, the chance of Mr. Cole in representing Huawei in the controversial, if not the most controversial, case seems to be dim. Not only Cole but his law firm Sidley may need to withdraw from the defense of this case.

It can, therefore, be expected that Huawei will have a tough time. For the U.S. authorities, however, it is still too early to say the legal strategy, which seems to be successful per se, will be in the interest of the United States.

If Mr. Cole and his firm have to withdraw from the defense team for Huawei, no one can stop some analysts from believing that the U.S. government's move just indicated that it might have unjustifiably collected relevant information during the investigation phase of this case.
 
now I read twice
US bets on different mobile airwaves from rest of the world – and that might cost it the 5G race
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  • The stakes are high for the US to put its mobile infrastructure expansion in order as it competes against China for 5G leadership
 

Appix

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The next step is that they will ban the delivery of critical components to Huawei to stop or slow it's 5G-expansion. I hope Huawei is a different story then the almost death story of ZTE last May after the ban of critical components. China is still dependent on important technology from the West. This should change and fast!
 
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