Invading Chinese Airspace

Yimmy

New Member
renmin said:
China never attacks first,

Er, then how do you explain the Chino-Vietnamese conflict? Or Tibet for that matter? In fact, didn't they start the Sino-Indian conflict and all?
 

renmin

Junior Member
Yimmy said:
Er, then how do you explain the Chino-Vietnamese conflict? Or Tibet for that matter? In fact, didn't they start the Sino-Indian conflict and all?
NO NO NO. Im talking about after the comunist took over China. Mao wrote many sayings in a red book and people followed that. One of them is to never attack or harm someone unless they harm you. the wars you are talking about go way back, that time, China attacks and invades many countries because of there emperors thurst for power.
 

ger_mark

Junior Member
you may study abit chinese history even i know more about it (and that means alot :D )

mao was the leader of china when they occupied tibet ...
plus sino vietnam conflict was in 1980's wasnt it ?
 

renmin

Junior Member
ger_mark said:
you may study abit chinese history even i know more about it (and that means alot :D )

mao was the leader of china when they occupied tibet ...
plus sino vietnam conflict was in 1980's wasnt it ?
OOPs my bad, I must have misread what was said! no need for insults, a simple mistake. hey, you know, after Vietnam war, US troops witdraw, by then Vietnam had issues with China and no longer liked them, Vietnam made several threats to China (see, China did not attack for no reson like I had said). And what is it with you people? Hello, Tibet is part of China, they did not ocupy it, it China property! I see this crap every where, god when will they undestand.
 

Kampfwagen

Junior Member
Er, anyway...

My thoughts? Well, I imagine that once, say a UAV entered China's border, they would probably have a good idea as to what exactly it is. Most long-range UAV's are roughly the size of Cesena airplanes as far as wingspan so they wouldint exactly be invisible to radar. Now, I imagine that first border defenses would be scrambled. Maybe a flight of J-7's, a small scramble squadron goes to confirm. When the UAV dosent respond to several pleas to retreat, they will blow it out of the sky once they get in range. Ether that, or any number of Areial Defense SAM sites will do the job.
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
ger_mark said:
you may study abit chinese history even i know more about it (and that means alot :D )

mao was the leader of china when they occupied tibet ...
plus sino vietnam conflict was in 1980's wasnt it ?

started 1979

lets not get too off track,
so suppose a taiwanese commander thought that a plaaf air attack was imminant. so he scrambles some f-16s and mirage 2000s to attack a chinese harbor. unfortunately for him, the chinese had only been preparing for an exercise. the chinese ships open fire on the taiwanese planes, which need to get close for prescision strike. then more plaaf fighters rust to the defence. the whole incident would probably trigger a pla invasion, and the end of the status quo.
 

Vlad Plasmius

Junior Member
Uhhhh

Sino-Vietnam conflict - Vietnam invaded China's ally
Sino-Indian Conflict - Can't really say, it escalated from a border conflict, China was just the one to initiate the invasion basically the Mexican War for us in the U.S.
Tibet - they were legally China's

so suppose a taiwanese commander thought that a plaaf air attack was imminant. so he scrambles some f-16s and mirage 2000s to attack a chinese harbor. unfortunately for him, the chinese had only been preparing for an exercise. the chinese ships open fire on the taiwanese planes, which need to get close for prescision strike. then more plaaf fighters rust to the defence. the whole incident would probably trigger a pla invasion, and the end of the status quo.

Hmmm, that actually sounds pretty likely, assuming Taiwan continues to be run by the DPP. They could get more radical and paranoid.

One thing I think needs to be adressed is if a B-2 went into Chinese airspace. I think that would really depend on the target. If they went for a target that was high quality there might be systems to detect the B-2 and then it's just a matter of getting a surface-to-air missile to fire where the B-2 will be. If they can achieve that they'll probably shoot it down or at least get rid of its stealth by damaging it. If they were only able to damage it so that it can limp back to an airbase then fighters could be scrampled to intercept or other SAMs could be fired.
 

Ender Wiggin

Junior Member
Tibet was Chinese territory and was never recognized as a nation aby another other power, all maps during the 30's and 40's showed Tibet as being part of the ROC.

The Sino-Indian conflict is very confusing, but I beliueve it is the Indians who build obsevartion posts on Chinese territory.

Sino-Vietnam: Vietnam invaded Cambodia, China's client state, and also it was to call Russia's bluff.
 

crazyinsane105

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The Sino India conflict was intiated by India for any of those who are confused. I think we have a thread about it in our military history forum.
 

lookandsay

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Yimmy said:
Er, then how do you explain the Chino-Vietnamese conflict? Or Tibet for that matter? In fact, didn't they start the Sino-Indian conflict and all?
something is wrong.in fact indian and vietnamese defy china before the conflict.
 
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