Invading Chinese Airspace

SampanViking

SampanViking

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If there is such a thing as a pointless topic of conversation, it must be trying to argue the result of an unlikely encounter. Trying to compare any one on one engagement between two different planes is of course pointless, as no modern airforce flies as independant units.

So lets discuss something worthwhile

What would be the experience of an Aerial Invader penetrating Chinese Airspace in order to attack High Value targets?

Bearing in mind the differences between the various Military Districts you may like to consider Invasions from all four compass points.

Off you go then!!
 
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Yimmy

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It rather depends on who the aerial invader is, and what assets they have available. Do they have anti-radar munitions? Do they have stealth aircraft? Are they adopting a hi-lo-hi attack pattern or lo-lo-lo?

You may want to specify the likes of the above to make the situation plausable.
 
SampanViking

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You dont need me to tell you that Yimmy

You can be anyone one you like, with any realistic force package that you think another Airforce can muster. What do you think you would face? What do you think you would need? How would you rate your forces chances of mission success and survival?

All you need is a little research and a good dose of imagination.
 
MIGleader

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ok, suppose a u.s/cia operated uav flew from taiwan or japan into china. the chinese would simply shoot it down(like they did dozens of times before), and showcase the uav to the world. perhaps its technology would be utilized in a plaaf uav, such as the firebee was.
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it would be pretty embarassing for the cia.
 
FriedRiceNSpice

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MIGleader said:
ok, suppose a u.s/cia operated uav flew from taiwan or japan into china. the chinese would simply shoot it down(like they did dozens of times before), and showcase the uav to the world. perhaps its technology would be utilized in a plaaf uav, such as the firebee was.
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it would be pretty embarassing for the cia.
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I am not catching your drift...
How does that relate to the topic?
Are you suggesting the US will attempt an aerial assualt on China with a single UAV?
 
MIGleader

MIGleader

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1 uavs. they would fly to beijing, and different shipyards. multiple uavs would be too conspicous on radar.
 
FriedRiceNSpice

FriedRiceNSpice

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MIGleader said:
1 uavs. they would fly to beijing, and different shipyards. multiple uavs would be too conspicous on radar.
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And what would that UAV do? Drop a nuclear a weapon? Take reconassiance photographs that may just as well be obtained from sattelites? Fire missiles or drop cluster munitions on Chinese troop positions? Try to launch a secret decapitation strike on Chinese leaders and warplanners? Engage Chinese aircraft???
 
renmin

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UAVs are too small to carry weapons. the most they can carry are 2 sidewinders like the preditor. China has shot down many UAVs and brought them to research institutes to study. In terms of an aireal assult, that might be quite unlikely. It will require a aircraft carrier battle group that will be spotted by Chinese. Besides China has the right to shoot down those stupid UAVs. what are the Americans doing in China airspace in the first place? USA can not protest China shooting down the UAV.
 
MIGleader

MIGleader

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ok, screw the uav.
the fact is, most of china's neighbors lack a serious offensive ability. the advanced weapons supplie to japan, korea, and taiwan are all defensive.

ok, what if kim jong il attacked china? i dont think he stands a chance. suppose he continued with nukes, and china attacked him. so kim retaliates by sending his one and only squadron of mig-29s and some of his mig-23s to escort his mig-23ps and mig-23mls and q-5(rather ironic) to attack china. all the while, he has some su-25s launch a deep strike with an il-76 and some md-500 copters ferrying in troops.

china retaliates by sending all of shenyang based flankers to engage him. s-300s and ft-2000s open fire. any troops landing on the ground are wiped out by the pla's type 98 armored divisions.
 
renmin

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MIGleader said:
ok, screw the uav.
the fact is, most of china's neighbors lack a serious offensive ability. the advanced weapons supplie to japan, korea, and taiwan are all defensive.

ok, what if kim jong il attacked china? i dont think he stands a chance. suppose he continued with nukes, and china attacked him. so kim retaliates by sending his one and only squadron of mig-29s and some of his mig-23s to escort his mig-23ps and mig-23mls and q-5(rather ironic) to attack china. all the while, he has some su-25s launch a deep strike with an il-76 and some md-500 copters ferrying in troops.

china retaliates by sending all of shenyang based flankers to engage him. s-300s and ft-2000s open fire. any troops landing on the ground are wiped out by the pla's type 98 armored divisions.
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North Korea? HA they wont stand a chance. They can barley even penetrate China's borders without being massacred by Chinese troops. second China is not like America who attacks countries that posses nukes. China never attacks first, heard of Mao's saying MIGleader? you should of its quite famous. For one thing the longest ranged missile that Korea has is the Moksong 1, Pekdosan 1 which has only a range of 2000km. relations with North Korea is decreaseing because their leader is a idiot. China is not threatened by NK because they have nukes but it is because Kim had once pointed his missiles at China, but China did the same thing.
 
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