intresting artical on T-99s gun

Vytautas · Mar 20, 2006

An m1s turret has never been "blown up"

Ok i dont want to drift off topic,but im really tired of this indestructable M1 myth.

This was done by a roadside bomb or an IED as some people call it.

vincelee · Mar 20, 2006

that doesn't look like IED. It seems like someone took the field destruction of unrecoverable (mission killed) materials a bit too seriously.

Where the hell is Utelore when you need him?

Kampfwagen · Mar 20, 2006

A friend of mine told me that the only things, so far, that have MK'ed (Mission Killed) M1 Tanks were mines and IED's. This seems to be because the M1 has never really faced anything outside of an outdated and ill-equiped T-72 tank. Thus, the myth of M1 invinicbility is a little ridiculous. It's sort of like saying you are the king of Karate when you only fight the kindergardners.

Vlad Plasmius · Mar 20, 2006

And this thing isen't solely chinese issue, many other military equipment have quite similar development pattern in different countryes.

Yes, in fact, our Abrams uses a german cannon, I think the one used on the Leopard 2.

I think there is one account of a projectile killing an Abrams. Some speculated it was an advanced Russian RPG.

vincelee · Mar 21, 2006

Kampfwagen said:
A friend of mine told me that the only things, so far, that have MK'ed (Mission Killed) M1 Tanks were mines and IED's. This seems to be because the M1 has never really faced anything outside of an outdated and ill-equiped T-72 tank. Thus, the myth of M1 invinicbility is a little ridiculous. It's sort of like saying you are the king of Karate when you only fight the kindergardners.

completely wrong. BMP2s have missioned killed quite a few M1s when they destroyed the optics.

As for US foreign contents... M1 uses a RheinMetal gun and the TUSK upgrade uses Israeli ERA.

crobato · Mar 21, 2006

Dongfeng said:
I agree with Gollevainen on this one.

In many examples where people are trying to hide the origin of a Chinese system if it is developed from a foreign system. J-10 is a perfect example, Type 98/99 is another.

There have been many attemps in China to develop a high-performance fighter or tank, but only those with foreign links (J-10 and Type 98/99) survived. Why? It is easy to design a spare part or a subsystem, but when it comes to a large sophisticated system, not everyone can does it.

The final product may look quite different to the foreign origin, but you cannot simply deny this link

And so, is the 052C developed from AEGIS? If not, what then?

Vytautas · Mar 21, 2006

It seems like someone took the field destruction of unrecoverable (mission killed) materials a bit too seriously.

Agreed

Kampfwagen · Mar 21, 2006

vincelee said:
completely wrong. BMP2s have missioned killed quite a few M1s when they destroyed the optics.

It dosent suprise me. However, I should rephrase what I said. When I meant MK'ed, I was infering it to be a total write-off like the one in the above picture.

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utelore · Mar 21, 2006

Nothing is invincible the only tank in OIF which was not mission killed or Killed by Iraqi fire was the Challenger. The M1A1 with the turret separation was caused by the gunner spinning his turret to many times. This is the super secret self destruction ability the M1A1 has……..now that your all done laughing…it was caused by a really big IED…..cheers ute....sorry for going off topic....if you guys wish I can reopen the M1A1 Q&A

Gollevainen · Mar 21, 2006

It would be good to reopen the thread, i was actually about to set up a thread to ask few questions myself. So concerate all M1 discussion there...and let this be for Type 99...

intresting artical on T-99s gun

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