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Puss in Boots

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Not really, the mountains and the nukes will shield India from any aggresion from China and Pakistan is to small and little to be an real danger to rally people around a flagg
China is simply not interested in attacking India..Mountains and nuclear weapons cannot guarantee India's absolute security. India's nuclear delivery capabilities are very limited, and its nuclear strike capability is probably on par with North Korea's. Its deterrent effect against China's multi-layered air defense system is somewhat insufficient.
India builds consensus by creating enemies and inciting populism, which has nothing to do with the strength of the enemy you mentioned.
 
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siegecrossbow

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People act as if China didn’t want to resolve the issue. As a matter of fact China wanted to settle things once and for all in the 90s but the Jai Hindians, whose Vedic line of thinking is very similar to that of Trump’s, always assumed that China negotiates because it’s weak and kept on pushing for more concessions. Even Russians are able to work something out, but Indians can’t, and I say that speaks volumes about Indians rather than the Chinese.
 

Gloire_bb

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China is simply not interested in attacking India..Mountains and nuclear weapons cannot guarantee India's absolute security. India's nuclear delivery capabilities are very limited, and its nuclear strike capability is probably on par with North Korea's. Its deterrent effect against China's multi-layered air defense system is somewhat insufficient.
India builds consensus by creating enemies and inciting populism, which has nothing to do with the strength of the enemy you mentioned.
DPRK isn't exactly a low bar in nuclear deterrence any longer. It's a but more difficult to place it specifically (it's nuclear arsenal is contradictory), but overall capability and floor capability (i.e. retaliatory) for DPRK is very high&grows rapidly. Their benchmark (which is US/ROK counterforce at point blank) is supremely high, no nations work against conditions so dire.
Put UK or France against US counterforce - they'd just collapse, entire force and c&c design would have to be reinvented from ground up.

And no, with all that, India (for China at least as compared to US v DPRK) is far more dangerous.
Both ways: China's ABM capability isn't significant yet (it is early in deployment, capability is only being built and functionally - politically - doesn't exist yet).

Nor counterforce is (yet) realistic* for PLA against a country this big, with something of a nuclear triad.

*assuming indians don't outright sleep, which they can.
People act as if China didn’t want to resolve the issue.
Well, political damage from the 1963 war is semi-permanent, there's very little that can be done about that.
I believe we talked at some point abt that in the past - while tactically successful, war went against two very different strategic cultures. That war was meant as a message, but messages work only when sides speak same strategic language.

Which is why Sino-vietnamese conflicts, regardless of tactical success, were a strategic victory for China, and for all the grievances, they aren't a show stopper in relations with Vietnam. With India, long term message turned out literally the opposite from one Mao wanted to convey. And it'll hardly turn around.
 
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Randomuser

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China is simply not interested in attacking India..Mountains and nuclear weapons cannot guarantee India's absolute security. India's nuclear delivery capabilities are very limited, and its nuclear strike capability is probably on par with North Korea's. Its deterrent effect against China's multi-layered air defense system is somewhat insufficient.
India builds consensus by creating enemies and inciting populism, which has nothing to do with the strength of the enemy you mentioned.
I don't get why the mountain defense keeps getting brought up.

Wasn't one of the shocking things to India in 1962 was how far and fast China could advance through the mountains? They moved at such a pace, that Delhi itself could be a target had things gotten worse.

There also is this stupid thing where they assume PLA soldiers can't cope with high mountains even though there are multiple provinces where half the place are mountains. Only a very small population of India lives in mountain areas and the rest is quite flat. So even if China doesn't have many mountain people, it's not like India has a better claim.
 
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siegecrossbow

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I don't get why the mountain defense keeps getting brought up.

Wasn't one of the shocking things to India in 1962 was how far China could advance through them? They moved at such a pace, that Delhi itself could be a target had things gotten worse.

It wouldn’t have worked. It took China two years to stick up enough ammo and supplies to launch the offensive in 62. Logistically it could not have supported holding South Tibet long term, let alone capture Delhi.
 

_killuminati_

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Only a very small population of India lives in mountain areas and the rest is quite flat. So even if China doesn't have many mountain people, it's not like India has a better claim.
Immediately south of Himalayas are the Shivalik Hills, that go upto 6600ft, which have maybe 15-20 million people. Only the Indus and Gangetic plains are flat (and some coastal area); the rest is elevation, though not as high as the Himalayas.
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