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GiantPanda

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mossen said:
Given that France has just cancelled its joint effort with Germany to produce a 5th gen jet because the French wanted greater control, I don't really see why they would give full ToT to India, which is a less important country to them than a very close ally like Germany.
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You cannot apply real world geopolitical logic to India. India is special -- because every Indian believes it -- so France will just give it to them! If you believe and wish hard enough, miracles can happen.

(Note: this is coming from high-level Indian official so they truly believe this.)

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French jet engine maker Safran is ready for 100% technology transfer of a jet engine to India for powering the latter’s fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft, a senior Indian official said on January 26.

Indian Ambassador to France, Jawed Ashraf, said Safran was willing to transfer technology. Ashraf was addressing the media on January 26 during the state visit of French President Emmanual Macron to India to join the annual Republic Day parade in New Delhi.
 
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GiantPanda said:
You cannot apply real world geopolitical logic to India. India is special -- because every Indian believes it -- so France will just give it to them! If you believe and wish hard enough, miracles can happen.

(Note: this is coming from high-level Indian official so they truly believe this.)

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French jet engine maker Safran is ready for 100% technology transfer of a jet engine to India for powering the latter’s fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft, a senior Indian official said on January 26.

Indian Ambassador to France, Jawed Ashraf, said Safran was willing to transfer technology. Ashraf was addressing the media on January 26 during the state visit of French President Emmanual Macron to India to join the annual Republic Day parade in New Delhi.
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Last weak I was being laughed at on the sheer idea of a Safran-JV and ToT.
We have Agence France-Presse mentioned as source on this now.
 
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GiantPanda said:
You cannot apply real world geopolitical logic to India. India is special -- because every Indian believes it -- so France will just give it to them! If you believe and wish hard enough, miracles can happen.

(Note: this is coming from high-level Indian official so they truly believe this.)

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French jet engine maker Safran is ready for 100% technology transfer of a jet engine to India for powering the latter’s fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft, a senior Indian official said on January 26.

Indian Ambassador to France, Jawed Ashraf, said Safran was willing to transfer technology. Ashraf was addressing the media on January 26 during the state visit of French President Emmanual Macron to India to join the annual Republic Day parade in New Delhi.
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Sorry again, this news is nonsense and the source - aka Eurasiantimes - is nonsnese!

Yes, France will provide some sort of ToT but surely never ever their latest understanding ...
 
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Deino said:
Sorry again, this news is nonsense and the source - aka Eurasiantimes - is nonsnese!

Yes, France will provide some sort of ToT but surely never ever their latest understanding ...
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Well it might not be nonsense, since according to Indians, they themselves and everyone else seems to be READY to do all sorts of things all the time but never actually do it.
 
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When I was in university, I took a lot of things very personally, and my graduate advisor told me something along these lines: "To you, it is a matter of survival, but to them, it's just their job. They're not out for you personally, they just don't care as much as you do."

I think about this every time the Indians come out with a new article saying that this or that country is betraying India by delaying one sale or another. It's not really a betrayal. The other country just doesn't really care. They don't sit at a table snickering at the inconvenience this will cause India. That couldn't be further from their minds.

These headlines will only cease once the Indians realize that the only people who will care about their military the same way they do is really just themselves and really put in some effort into cultivating actual domestic abilities, instead of this constant "100% ToT will solve all of our problems" mentality.
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It's pretty simple. If you have main character syndrome, you think the world all has their monitors on looking at you.

But the truth is most of the world don't care. They only care about their own problems. If India is getting any attention, it's negative because they keep insisting on being on other people's monitor with no one asking for it.

Just look at this thread. Its just mainly Indian media or military figures making more boasts or claim that will lead to nothing. There's no real cutting edge developments that will make people inherently come to this thread out of genuine interest. For example at least in the Turkey thread you can discuss the latest next gen fighter development.
 
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Deino said:
Sorry again, this news is nonsense and the source - aka Eurasiantimes - is nonsnese!

Yes, France will provide some sort of ToT but surely never ever their latest understanding ...
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M88 isn't their "latest"...
Russian and France are now both fighting for delicious billions. France can win more, but their platform is obviously weaker; this time they have to bring in strong sweeteners. Especially after Sindoor.

Su-57 comes from outside of the box and in a form that won't really give bring strong ToT (fighters after 2027 are al51fn ones); it is a big external threat.
 
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Who knows? Maybe the French really are that foolish—spending a decade nurturing an Indian company capable of destroying the European aero-engine industry, all for the sake of tens of billions in profits. Perhaps this is the very essence of capitalism: sacrificing cutting-edge technologies like aircraft engines—equivalent to nuclear weapons—with ease for short-term gains.
 
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You can pretty much forget it. France did not share SaM-146 civilian hot engine section manufacturing technology with Russia for a much larger engine order. Russia build 235 Superjet with that engine. Two of them per aircraft. Almost 500 engines ignoring spares.

The only instances of France sharing engine technology in a significant way was with helicopter engines.
 
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