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valysre

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According to this news (link below), the first prototype will be in 2029 and production by 2035. Let's wait and see then.

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By that link, we can prepare ourselves for a repeat of the Tejas engine debacles:
The AMCA project is divided into two phases: the MK-1, powered by GE F414 engines ..., and the MK-2, which will feature a more powerful indigenous engine developed in collaboration with an international partner
 

valysre

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Really beating a dead horse here but imagine how many vendors HAL will go through for the AMCA electronics suite. Who on earth will sell to them? Can India produce it domestically? All interesting questions to ponder.
 

Randomuser

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One of the biggest criticisms of Arab states armies is they just buy whatever expensive western stuff they think is fancy and leave it at that. They never bother to understand whats behind it, how to use it effectively, how the strategy and methods change around it and just expect the tools to do the work. Thats why they have poor performance in wars.

I feel like even though India thinks its above that, in reality its not much different from that mentality. Like they just buy whatever western or Russian crap and expect it to do all the work.
 
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GiantPanda

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One of the biggest criticisms of Arab states armies is they just buy whatever expensive western stuff they think is fancy and leave it at that. They never bother to understand whats behind it, how to use it effectively, how the strategy and methods change around it and just expect the tools to do the work. Thats why they have poor performance in wars.

I feel like even though India thinks its above that, in reality its not much different from that mentality. Like they just buy whatever western or Russian crap and expect it to do all the work.

Arabs don't have domestic alternatives.

Indians have this story of supposedly domestic alternatives. But from what we've seen those are either too expensive since they are often are composed of majority foreign parts and/or they are simply not good enough.

This "lack of confidence" story feels like phony breastbeating to make themselves feel better that their stuff is actually "good" if only they had "confidence." No, they simply don't have the industrial base for this stuff.

Seriously, they have no electronics industry. Why would they have suddenly have competent radars or EW equipment appearing out of nowhere?
 

CMP

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Arabs don't have domestic alternatives.

Indians have this story of supposedly domestic alternatives. But from what we've seen those are either too expensive since they are often are composed of majority foreign parts and/or they are simply not good enough.

This "lack of confidence" story feels like phony breastbeating to make themselves feel better that their stuff is actually "good" if only they had "confidence." No, they simply don't have the industrial base for this stuff.

Seriously, they have no electronics industry. Why would they have suddenly have competent radars or EW equipment appearing out of nowhere?
On the contrary, given how unjustifiably confident India is, it's rather damning that they picked lack of confidence as their justification. It means that even with their delusional level of confidence in general, there's no way they would choose their own domestic alternative. That's how bad it is.
 

GiantPanda

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On the contrary, given how unjustifiably confident India is, it's rather damning that they picked lack of confidence as their justification. It means that even with their delusional level of confidence in general, there's no way they would choose their own domestic alternative. That's how bad it is.

LOL. Yes, there is no lack of confidence when it comes to Indians.

You know, delusions no longer work when it comes to the reality of delivering.

They can't deliver indigenous sets for actual planes under contract. It is that simple.

But they want to spin a tale to imply they "could have" if it weren't for confidence.
 

valysre

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Why would they have suddenly have competent radars or EW equipment appearing out of nowhere?
I reckon if they get enough PL-15 wreckages with intact seekers they might be able to Macgyver together a larger AESA array. It would fit their narrative of Indian perseverance and ingenuity.
 

CannedFish

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I reckon if they get enough PL-15 wreckages with intact seekers they might be able to Macgyver together a larger AESA array. It would fit their narrative of Indian perseverance and ingenuity.
They would have done it with the Meteors if they even had the capability of Macgyvering something that complex.
 
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