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Fulcrum007

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Yeah but the US AC was doing it in rough sea conditions, the Indian one looks calm.
It's a momentarily capture for cinematic purposes and just because you don't see any whitecaps doesn't mean there's no perceptible swell, there is if you see clearly.
 

Fulcrum007

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Oh no :(

Looks like these countries also don't have the "industrial base" to learn and put bulbous bows in their ships.
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Stealthflanker

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s that a normal thing for an AC to be bowing up and down?

sagging and hogging is normal. At most it's just show she's lightly loaded at front. and one have to know what speed she's cruising as the faster she goes she might approach or maybe exceed her speed-length ratio. At this condition a ship's movement starts to cause squat phenomenon where the stern is lower and the bow actually rise.
 

Atomicfrog

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Well ... I thought we'll see it already late this or early next year??

At first glance I was thinking it was the real thing, I was like ''it's about time !'' It taking them so much time...

hmm apparently a new trainer project.



I'm curious why not using Tejas as Baseline. Considering there already 2 seater variant of it. That will save alot of time and resources compared to having to re-invent the wheel for the new design.

That's some ridiculous payload... probably more than twice Tejas Mk1 payload...
 

Lethe

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hmm apparently a new trainer project.


I'm curious why not using Tejas as Baseline. Considering there already 2 seater variant of it. That will save alot of time and resources compared to having to re-invent the wheel for the new design.

HLFT-42 LIFT seems to be an unsolicited proposal from HAL (Hindustan Aeronautics Laboratory), basically successor to previous HJT-39 proposal from fifteen years ago which was not picked up by IAF/MoD. Tejas is managed by ADA (Aeronautical Development Agency). ADA was created to take aircraft development out of HAL's hands (we have seen how well this has gone) and HAL does not take kindly to this. From HAL's perspective, India needs an indigenous advanced trainer at some point, and if it can step on LCA/Tejas' toes at the same time, so much the better.

There are other ongoing HAL trainer projects also:
HTT-40 basic trainer: on order.
HJT-36 intermediate trainer: still in development hell? Future prospects unclear.
 
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Abominable

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There is no technical problem in fitting enough fuel internally into a light fighter provided that's the aim of the design. Fuel is quite dense, and it isn't really shape-restricted as long as the fuel system allows it.
Drop tanks on top of that are a positive bonus - they're net positive (they buy you more range than drag cuts into it)...though I'd expect significant maneuvering restrictions for a light fighter with anything other than the smaller centerline supersonic tank.

Other forms of external payloads, however, eat proportionally into light fighters' range, kinetic and maneuvering capabilities.
It affects both 'heavy' (A2G) and 'light' (A2A) loads.
Isn't the thrust to weight ratio important for a (ski jump) carrier based aircraft?
 

Atomicfrog

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Isn't the thrust to weight ratio important for a (ski jump) carrier based aircraft?
Clearly important but wing surface area and stall speed is also quite a part of it too. Tejas is more wings than fuselage... so it can help. But from the video, it looked like it was taking most of carrier lenght to liftoff...

Remember that a C-130 cargo plane was able to lift off from a carrier without skijump and catapult...and land without arresting hook.
 
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