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Sardaukar20

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Chinese fighter jets are still trying to irritate Indian soldiers stationed in Eastern Ladakh even after discussions at the Corps Commander level, as they have repeatedly flown close to the Line of Actual Control (LAC).
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Irritate how? From naptime, Chai time, Yoga time, or watching Bollywood time?

The Indian Air Force has been mobilising its own fighter jets to counter the threat posed by Chinese aircraft, but it appears that the People's Liberation Army is uneasy about the IAF's upgrade of its Ladakh sector infrastructure, which will allow it to monitor Chinese activities deep inside of areas under their control, according to the sources.
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If PLA were so uneasy, then why are the Indian Jawans so easily irritated.

"The Chinese fighter jets including the J-11 continue to fly close to the Line of Actual Control. There have been instances of violation of the 10 Km Confidence Building Measure (CBM) line in the region in recent times," government sources told ANI.
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What Confidence Building Measure line? Isn't the Indian Army already high on confidence? What more confidence do they need?

According to the sources, the IAF has been reacting to these activities with precision and has also been keeping a very careful eye on the Chinese flying pattern in the area where they are flying at both low and high altitudes.
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Doesn't matter if the IAF is reacting with 'precision' or not. The fact that the IAF is always reacting to Chinese moves is not a good measure of competence.

After the Chinese attempted to unilaterally change the status quo on the LAC in the April–May 2020 period, India has likewise been moving very quickly to improve its military facilities in Ladakh.
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Nope, China retook Chinese territories from Indian salami-slicers. No matter how much India improved its military facilities. Nothing has changed on the map.

Around June 24–25, a Chinese fighter jet went dangerously close to a flashpoint in eastern Ladakh, which marked the beginning of Chinese fighter jet provocations. They claimed that following it, there were several CBM breaches between the two sides along the LAC close to the Chumar area, and they have continued ever since.
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Chinese jets flying over Chinese territories. What is so provocative about that? Besides it only irritated Indian Jawans, hence China is wasting jet fuel and flight hours. So what's the big deal? Why does India need to follow? To irritate the PLA back?
 
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tygyg1111

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Sardaukar20 said:
Nope, China retook Chinese territories from Indian salami-slicers. No matter how much India improved its military facilities. Nothing has changed on the map.
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Turns out the meat in that salami was beef

Chinese jets flying over Chinese territories. What is so provocative about that? Besides it only irritated Indian Jawans, hence China is wasting jet fuel and flight hours. So what's the big deal? Why does India need to follow? To irritate the PLA back?
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Quote from Sun-Modi: A strong curry must always irritate
 
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twineedle

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ougoah said:
Lol India does have to ask china if India can resume patrols.

Proves what we thought. That the buffer is more one sided and India cannot patrol plenty of places they used to.

Modi gets flogged and goes home to his bhakti crowd with those muscle shirts pretending he came out of negotiations and that kerfuffle on top.
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That has nothing to do with the buffer that has already been decided. The issue the Indian side brought up was the dispute at depsang, where both sides are blocking each other from their traditional patrol routes. This has actually been going on since before the current standoff began, hence why it is referred to as a legacy dispute, since the first major standoff there occured in 2013 well before modi.
 
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twineedle

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ougoah said:
Not only are they asking china to go further back presumably from China's edge of buffer (hint hint that suggests buffer positions were more in favour of china)... The Indians are also asking for patrol rights.

They are asking china for patrol rights they abused which provoked the border issue.

I mean ignoring the military aspects... This is just pathetic diplomacy and negotiating from the Indians. Modi honestly is a good thing for china. If one can ignore the bhakts under him. There's always that inverse relation between demagogue political posturing and the quality of their followers having a greater impact on the performance of their nation. It's poetic justice for violent morons.
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Actually, it is China that is asking India to go back. China is refusing a mutual buffer zone at hot springs and is requesting that India completely vacate the kugrang valley, which it recently occupied during the standoff
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India has no issues with the current buffer zones implemented.
 
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