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With the new Mig-29K aircraft now being seen at INS Dega at Vizag on India's East coast, we are getting a pretty good idea about the Indian Navy's basing strategy for its new carriers and Mig-29K aircraft.

Here's what we know now:

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Aksha, is there a suitable base for the Vikrant near Vizag...or will the Indian Navy have to either build or improve a base like they did with INS Kadamba at Karwar on the west coast for the Vikramaditya?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
the quality of INSAS has improved a lot in the recent years,


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They have made changes and done soem good but those are not in the hands of The Front line indian troops. CQ changes might solve he burst to Auto and the oil shooting perhaps one or two jams but even at the reduced weight it's still a heavier then it needs to be a fully railed 16 inch barrel AR 15 is about 6.28 pounds the "Light weight" Excaliber MK1 is 8.4 the Kalantak with a M4 length barrel is 7.9 pounds a M4A1 is 6.4 pounds
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Multi Caliber Individual Weapon System

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If the Indians can produce the MCIWS in quality fine but there track record is not good also consider that as yet there is no evedence of production infact we have reports of it hung up and any alternative design basically being tossed.
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other small improvements being made on the basic INSAS which will included in the F-INSAS programme -EXCALIBER and Ghatak
Except INSAS was canceled,
Indian Army to Break up Future Soldier Program into Two Parts
Source : Pinaki Bhattacharya ~ Dated : Wednesday, January 14, 2015 @ 08:50 AM
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The Indian Army has decided to junk the Future Infantry Soldier As a System (F-INSAS) program in favor of two separate projects.

The new program will have two components: one arming the modern infantry soldier with the best available assault rifle, carbines and personal equipment such as the helmet and bulletproof vests and the second component is the Battlefield Management Systems (BMS).

Observers say that the bifurcation has been done on account of the budgetary convenience.

In the BMS category goes all the communication and optical equipment of a modern soldier which includes palm-top communication equipment and the helmet mounted cameras. The assault weapon field trials are going on: there are four kinds, Baretta (Italy), Colt (USA), Bren (Czech) and Tavor (Israel). The last has already been chosen for Indian Special Forces.

Vice Chief of Army staff, Lt General Philip Campose, told our correspondentat the end of the media interaction, “There is no F-INSAS program any more”.

He detailed how the army adopted the program in a way that keeps the infantry soldier less burdened by technology, and more agile to carry out his tasks.
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So you have Insas rebuilds that may or may not solve some of the issues but are still heavy, you have the MCIWS which might come to be but has no competition, the F-Insas terminated. and the accessorys maybe salvaged for MCIWS as it's the only hope.
 

aksha

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Aksha, is there a suitable base for the Vikrant near Vizag...or will the Indian Navy have to either build or improve a base like they did with INS Kadamba at Karwar on the west coast for the Vikramaditya?


i beleieve the the vishakapatanam harbour can take a carrier of the vikrant's size,

though there is a base being planned
wikipedia article on it

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

INS Varsha is a new naval base being developed under Project Varsha for the
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. This base will be the home of the navy's new fleet of nuclear submarines and ships. It was planned to be located within a radius of approximately 200 kilometres (124.27 statute miles) from
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, the headquarters of the navy's
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Previous news reports suggested that
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had been the initial site for the new base.
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The base is now being developed at
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, which is 50 km from Visakhapatnam.
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Construction[
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INS Varsha would de-congest the
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, which is used by both the navy and the civilian
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. The navy's dockyards at Vizag are facing shortage of berthing space due to the rapid expansion of the Eastern fleet, which grew from 15 major warships in 2006 to 46 in 2012, and is still expanding. Varsha will have a large near-by facility of the
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(BARC), and will include modern nuclear engineering support facilities and extensive crew accommodation. It is designed to support the fleet of 8-12
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to be built for the Indian Navy. It will also have underground pens to hide the submarines from spy satellites and protect them from enemy air attacks. The navy is seeking foreign technical assistance pertaining to nuclear safety features for the base.
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While designed principally as a nuclear submarine support facility, the new base can accommodate other naval vessels because of the Indian Navy's expansion. This facility has been compared to the top-secret
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nuclear submarine base for the
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. This east coast base expansion programme by the Indian Navy was started due to India's
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and the
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into the region.
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In addition to Project Varsha, in late 2009, the
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, located at Visakhapatnam, was transferred from the
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to the
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in order to support the Arihant-class nuclear submarine construction programme. These new vessels will be based at INS Varsha.
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160
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(US$25 million) were sanctioned for the project in the 2011-12 budget, of which
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58
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(US$9 million) were for civil works and the balance
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100
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(US$16 million) were for setting up a
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system.
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aksha

Captain
They have made changes and done soem good but those are not in the hands of The Front line indian troops.

i can't comment on frontline troops , but railway police , police force ,coast guard and navy are being equipped with the amogh and newer versions of excaliber carbines



If the Indians can produce the MCIWS in quality fine but there track record is not good also consider that as yet there is no evedence of production infact we have reports of it hung up and any alternative design basically being tossed

the MCIWS seems to be the only logical answer to the cancellation of the
tender for other tender.

there is another programme running ,
for different requirements
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there track record is not good

their track record was not good in artillary guns either
with their first programme never seeing the light of the day

and the danush gun faced a barrel burst

but now it has passed all trials winter, summer , monsoon, and whatever else the indian army could think trialling of
 

aksha

Captain
.India, perhaps

they will find it hard to justify the weight and size of the T14 .

after all the only reason the Indian army isn't buying the arjun mk2 inspite of it roadrollering both the T90 and the T72(upgraded) is because they say it is too heavy , too wide etc etc

you can see their explanation for rejecting the arjun mk2 below

After more than three decades of development, India’s Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) has literally emerged like a phoenix from the ashes, surprising even its most sceptical observers. Last year, the Arjun outgunned the Indian army’s T-72 and T-90 MBT’s, when trials were conducted with the respective units putting up their best tanks and personnel.

FORCE visited the Combat Vehicles Research & Development Establishment (CVRDE) for an exclusive insight into the programme. We learnt that while the Arjun Mk-2 is substantially improved and more capable than the Arjun Mk-1; it is too heavy, limiting areas where it can be deployed by the Army. And that renders it unsuitable for the army’s operational requirements for a Main Battle Tank (MBT). According to P Sivakumar, Director CVRDE, “the weight of the Arjun prevents it from being deployed in all the areas required by the Army”.

Keeping this in mind, the Arjun Mk-2’s improved performance seems to have put the Army in a spot. What does one do with a tank that is fast, can shoot accurately on the move and is relatively well protected but is too heavy to be deployed in the deserts near the Pakistan border as a replacement for the T-72 or T-90? Paradoxically, while the tank itself has demonstrated high speed and mobility, its weight precludes it from being able to operate anywhere the army wants it to. The Arjun Mk-2 will weigh around 67 tonnes and this fatally limits the tank’s operational effectiveness for the Indian Army.

The tank is too heavy to be deployed across the border with Pakistan. It is unable to effectively traverse terrain filled with natural and/or artificial obstacles. Or areas criss-crossed with rivers and canals. That rules out most places in Rajasthan, Punjab and the mountainous terrain of the J&K sector.
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aksha

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The Indian Central Armed Police forces (CAPF) - as the main paramilitary forces under the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) are officially called- have been doing a lot of heavy hitting in the internal security domain for the past two decades.
It is also clear that the CAPFs have to undergo shorter modernisation cycles given the varied and evolving tactics adopted by insurgents and terrorists operating within India. The modernisation process, however, must look to now leverage domestically developed technology as a cost effective and smarter way to multiply force capability.
The Maoists it seems are still game for mass ambush-shooter actions. For the security forces the need to detect movements by Maoist teams therefore continues to be an operational imperative, the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF), India's largest CAPF which has been at the forefront of the anti-Maoist battle needs all the help it can get from new intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) technologies even as it builds a human intelligence network (HUMINT) in the forested areas of Central India.
In the past five years, a great deal of foreign equipment has sought to be imported for CAPFs in general and the CRPF in particular. But unfortunately not all of it works as advertised in the trying conditions extant on the Indian insurgent trail. What is instead required is specific technology tailored to Indian conditions. Home grown equipment however often exhibits those peculiar considerations that make it suitable for use within India.
Take the example of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) use by the CRPF for instance. For long the CRPF had been overwhelmingly dependent on just one medium altitude long endurance (MALE) Heron UAV of Israeli origin operated by the National Technical Research Organization (NTRO) for substantive surveillance flights over its areas of operation in the Maoist belt.
Beyond the ludicrousness of operating just one MALE UAV to support the CRPF in its anti-Maoist efforts, it seems that even this particular facility was not always available on demand due to red tape issues.
Now, however, the CRPF is turning towards the Defence Research and Development Organization's (DRDO's) Nishant UAV. CRPF officials have found that the Nishant, if deployed in numbers offers them much superior value than a single or a few MALE UAVs and that too without the need to set up substantial ground based infrastructure to support the same. Additionally they have learnt that DRDO was in a position to deploy a couple of UAV's with immediate effect for operations against the Maoists.
The Nishant after all was designed from the ground up to be a truck launched UAV with a low logistical footprint precisely so that it could be pressed into action quickly on India's mountainous and wooded frontiers.
That same capability will prove very valuable for CRPF which needs to operate from harsh terrain in Central India and has to keep its static ground presence optimal.
Nishant was of course developed on the basis of a GSQR issued by the Indian Army(IA) for battlefield surveillance and reconnaissance purposes during both day and night. It has a top speed of 185 km/hr and is capable of undertaking missions that span up to five hours. Recovery is by parachute.
As such CRPF is currently looking to procure up to 16 Nishant UAVs with HAL being engaged in the production of the same. Nishant will however not be the first homegrown to be pressed into service by a CAPF. The DRDO developed Netra vertical take-off and lift mini-UAV is already in service with CRPF.
Given India's security environment, technologies for low intensity conflict have emerged as a thrust area for DRDO. In the first decade of the 2000s, DRDO set up a division specifically dedicated to the exploitation and development of technologies for LIC operations. One project under this division holds forth the promise of being a true game changer for Indian CAPF's involved in jungle warfare against Maoists and other insurgents.
Under Project 'Divya Chakshu' DRDO is developing' Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR) to detect buried mines and IEDs, Through Wall Imaging Radar (TWIR), to detect the monitor movement of human beings behind walls for counterterrorist/ hostage rescue operations; and Ground-based Foliage Penetration Radar (GB-FPR), to detect moving men obscured by bushes, tall grass, fields, and vegetation.'
The GB-FPR once proven in the field will be especially useful in countering the greatest asset that the Maoists thus far possess – jungle cover. The Maoists ability to use jungle cover means that CAPFs on patrols have to constantly secure their own flanks from any ambush. GB-FPR will naturally make that effort simpler. Moreover, a UAV mounted FPR is currently in the developmental stage and has to overcome weight issues.
This airborne FPR program if successful may even deliver a system that can be carried by DRDO's Rustom-I MALE UAV, to which the IA is currently lukewarm. CRPF it seems is currently looking to float global tenders for 10 MALE UAVs but depending on their experience with the Nishant they could decide to wait for the Rustom-I instead which is basically ready to be productionized today, if it gets sufficient orders. Given the way Indian global tender procurements play out the modernization cycle will be much better served by opting for domestic equipment especially when they have the potential to confer quite a few advantages.
Servicing for instance comes to mind immediately. Moreover a continuous improvement process through feedback channelled to domestic developers is also very much on the cards. Indeed this is one of the ostensible reasons for DRDO setting up the LIC division anyway. And of course no one can deny affordability.
Taking into account life cycle costs and the need to get timely spares, the indigenous route far outweighs whatever apparent benefit buying 'global' brings.
The counter-IED effort in particular needs a concerted domestic push. Like the GPR, new 'reactive' jamming technologies are also being pursued. Across the board, CAPFs are inducting various kinds of electronic countermeasure equipment to counter radio and cellular mechanisms used for remotely triggering IEDs and these usually cover three primary frequency bands which are generally used by insurgents.
However, most of the systems being brought in are so called active systems and keep jamming until you turn them off manually. A move forward would be the induction of reactive systems mounted on patrol vehicles that 'listen' for incoming signals and diagnose if something is out of the ordinary before jamming it. An active system that is perpetually operating on patrol is likely to make friendly radio communications rather difficult. DRDO's LASTEC laboratory has also developed a counter-IED laser that deflagrates IED's in order to disable them.
Now as the CAPF ISR and counter-IED effort ramps up, the focus is also on the well-being of the trooper himself. CAPFs commanders often say that they lose more people to malaria then they do to insurgent bullets. Indeed the need to keep mosquitoes at bay in jungle terrain cannot be understated. What is worse, commercially available mosquito repellents proved to be too conspicuous for use against the Maoists who could smell these in the forest. At the moment new DRDO developed repellents are being issued that are odourless. Simple developments such as this make a world of difference. More involved products from DRDO for human systems include 'sustenance tablets' that greatly increase soldier endurance during 'seek and destroy' missions.
In the works for the future are munitions that reduce collateral damage, a range of small unmanned ground vehicles (which are nearing the end of their test phase) and better armour. While many of these technologies were initiated at the behest of the army it is not surprising that they are drawing the attention of the CAPF's as well.
The CAPF's today are basically engaged in guerrilla warfare against insurgents with substantial foreign input. When you look at CAPF budgets and responsibilities today one immediately gets the sense that force multiplication is the need of the hour. And this force multiplication is available domestically. There is hardly any need to look for it elsewhere. And since the DRDO-CRPF relationship is not really afflicted by any historical baggage, perhaps adoption and use by civilian security operators will make DRDO products more attractive to a wider audience. Either way, whether it is preparing for a 'two-front war' or a 'two-and-a-half front war', with the 'half' being fought by CAPFs against Maoists, there is no greater force multiplier than indigenisation itself.
 

aksha

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Army Statement on Mil Ops this morning along Indo-Myanmar border in Nagaland and Manipur.
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when the government said that it will take tough action , everyone thought it was all talk, as usual



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The Indian Army on Tuesday night issued an official statement on the surgical cross-border operations conducted by Special Forces on the Myanmar border, targeting militants involved in the Manipur ambush. Quoting Major General Ranbir Singh, Additional Director General of Military Operations (A), the Indian Army said that the troops were on a high-alert following the attack on the security personnel on June 4 in Chandel, Manipur.

"In the course of the last few days, credible and specific intelligence was received about further attacks that were being planned within our territory. These attacks were to be carried out by some of the groups involved in earlier attacks on our security personnel and their allies," Major General Ranbir said. [Manipur ambush: India-Myanmar launch offensive] He said taking into account the imminent threat, the Indian Army planned an immediate response.


"Based on intelligence, we conducted operations to counter these planned assaults. Early on Tuesday morning, the Indian Army engaged two separate groups of insurgents along the Indo-Myanmar border at two locations, along the Nagaland and Manipur borders. Significant casualties have been inflicted on them. As a consequence, threats to our civilian population and security forces were averted," Major General Ranbir said. He said that the Indian Army is in close communication with the Myanmar authorities on the matter. "There is a history of close cooperation between our two militaries. We look forward to working with them to combat such terrorism. While ensuring peace and tranquility along the border and in the border states, any threat to our security, safety and national integrity will meet a firm response," he added. All Special Forces members extricated safely Sources told OneIndia that all the Special Forces members who took part in surgical strikes have been extricated safely. "We have kept the Myanmar government in the loop during the entire breath and length of the operation. As part of the counter-strike strategy, Mi-17 helicopters were used," an official said. [Manipur ambush probe: Wrong data base leads to embarrassing start] Sources also confirmed that the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) was monitoring the entire operation and backed the Army right from the word go.

The counter-strike by Indian Special Forces is set to boost the morale of the Indian Army, which has been always put on an the offensive mode sighting various reasons. "It's a clear message to all those who are trying to dent the safety of our nation," the official said.
 
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