Why do you believe the border incidents were Chinese initiated? I see where you are coming from (China won the battle in terms of the border, but lost the war in terms of big picture aftermath), but if India was challenging Chinese sovereignty China better respond. Remember the 1962 war began due to 'probing actions' from the Indian side. The border clashes is the only correct course of action if India was challenging Chinese sovereignty.
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Post 1962, there is really only one side to the story: China-India is a "rivalry" entirely fabricated from the Indian side.
There is absolutely nothing that China can do that will placate a group of people driven by mainly by envy. This goes back decades. When China suggested that they would like to partner in the 1990s (even to the point of asking to be part of the LCA project), Indians like defense chief Fernandes were declaring China as their main enemy.
India is a propaganda foe of China not a military one. Again, absolutely no military interceptions and encounters beyond the clubs and sticks type.
The best way to deal with such a propaganda seeking country is to keep an eye open but do not engage in any of their attempts create any sort of equivalency between China and India. There is no chance of a major war over the Himalayas and it does nothing for China to treat India on the same plane as Japan, S Korea or even the Philippines because of the heavy US backing in Chinese adjacent waters.
General consensus it was more or less normal patrols. I.e. indians didn't do much unusual, unusual was Chinese reaction - someone decided that enough is enough is enough. Which led to lots of indian bodies, i.e. blood, i.e. stain that won't go anywhere for decades.
And that's where it indeed goes - absolutely inconsequential rocks with barely avoided - just this month - dire consequences.
And the reason why it's so is this very general perception. Ironic indeed, that in "autocratic" China connection between public perception and public policy is incomparably closer than in "democratic" nations (where public policy mostly seem to be completely turned into golden parachuted scapegoat races), but it indeed took Trump to fix.
With all due respect, massive, unexpected and humiliating(catastrophic) invasion isn't exactly "envy". Esp. when India back then was for a while the richer and properly internationally recognized one (we're in 1960s, remember - UN seat is still on the other shore).
And it is very much fault on the side of the offender, that he thought he can send signal in east Asian way by showing strength and then humility (through retreat), not even checking his "language".
Not knowing your opponent (who per his own, south asian, culture, saw this war as unsustainable show off, called back b/c of losses) is called hubris.
Note, then in a much weaker (way more butchered campaign) position v. Vietnam, when Deng did similar thing, Vietnamese understood very well what he meant and just shown. Even when the rest of the world thought and still thinks how Vietnam won.
Speaking same language (figuratively of course, it means culture) matters.
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Anyone who has been following geopolitics for the last decade knows how aggressive India has been for the last 15 years. They have fomented coups in its neighbours, blockaded Nepal to force them to change their constitution, Essentially propped up a dictator in Bangladesh, Militarily attacked Pakistan 3 times, even attacked inside Myanmar.
They have openly tried to force countries to block Chinese investment. They have tried to block Bhutan's resolution of the Border with China. They were very aggressive in Kashmir.
Ever since 2013 India has been pushing China on the Border. There has been constant Border crisis.
Who can forget the 2017 Doklam crisis when they openly entered Chinese territory that they claim was from Bhutan and essentially blocked road construction. It was due to China essentially giving up on its own land that the crisis was resolved.
India is an aggressive and fascist country bent on domination and eventual annexation of its neighbours. India is also full of Inferiority superiority complex where they consider themselves to be superior to the Chinese one hand, and yet anguish in Envy when they see Chinese success. They are constantly trying to fight China.
I consider India to be a bigger enemy to China than US. Cause US is too far and eventually the world power balance will shift and US will no longer be able to project its power near China.
But India is too close, and has too much greed and resentment. A country like this with 1.4 billion people is a huge threat to China.
There is only one way to deal with India in my opinion, Contain them, degrade them and break them into pieces eventually. China is already trying to contain them via its strong relationship with Pakistan, Bangladesh and other south Asian countries. But I think China will not be able stay neutral against India anymore. Soon China will have to actively work on degrading Indian economy and Indian society from Within. The eventual goal will be to break India into pieces.