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Lethe

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Sir, is it okay for you to shut down this whole thread for a while, and unlock it when you see fit? I think the thread is devolving into a low quality Reddit post for the last dozens of pages. I don't know how all this started, but having "cow-dung" slung around by one side as insults and the other side goes into fully delusional statements is really of no actual value that is characteristic of this forum.

I think shutting down Indian Economics Thread in the Sino Defence Forum for a bit while to cool people down in an already derailed nutritionless thread won't be too much of a loss.

Yeah, this thread should probably be nuked from orbit. It should be possible to have an interesting and rational discussion on this topic, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Personally I believe that SDF should enforce higher standards of behaviour in terms of both personal insults towards members and expressions of hatred towards entire nations, cultures, ethnicities and religions. SDF is a fairly civilised community given the inherently antagonistic nature of its subject matter, unfortunately discussions involving India seem to be one of the most consistent exceptions to this.
 

ougoah

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Not in my observations.



I advise leaving Bhutan out of any China-India war.

No reason to get Bhutan destroyed for India's suicidal mistakes.




Well, it kinda does.

Since you're disrespecting other countries and making hyper-nationalist Hinduvata points.

In any case, like I said, stop wasting your life on the internet.

Go and do something actually productive.

It might literally be their job to though lol.

As much fun as garden variety bhakt trolls have for claiming every netizen speaking well of China or not hating China is a paid Chinese troll (despite perfect english, clearly high intellect, and professional knowledge in whatever technical field), the Indians themselves genuinely have paid trolls writing and posting nonsense all over the internet (mostly English and Indian side). This is overlooked by Anglos for obvious reasons but whatever honestly. These guys want to waste more time and resources than it is worth to win pointless low level, low brow internet claims on facebook and youtube, then sure. They pay a price and win zilch except feel good bullshit for bhakts.

While China has done this (and thousands more to the same level of epic and even more epic - see BYD, CATL, Huawei, Baidu, Geely space guidance and literally dozens more)

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India is all about this stuff \/

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Jai Hind India is super! it is surpass! much success such victory! India is now hypa powa.
 
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Coalescence

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Let's not pretend the reason why is some great mystery. Discussions about India devolve to this repugnant level because Indians get involved.
I initially have high hopes for @Chandragupt to be the pro-Indian voice to balance the discussion and make the thread more engaging, overlooking some of his racist remarks. But it seem to went downhill and discussions have devolved into a China vs India thread.
 

ougoah

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Yeah, this thread should probably be nuked from orbit. It should be possible to have an interesting and rational discussion on this topic, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Personally I believe that SDF should enforce higher standards of behaviour in terms of both personal insults towards members and expressions of hatred towards entire nations, cultures, ethnicities and religions. SDF is a fairly civilised community given the inherently antagonistic nature of its subject matter, unfortunately discussions involving India seem to be one of the most consistent exceptions to this.

Yeah I wonder why... gee could it be because the Indian go around slinging nonsense left right and centre.

Okay they mostly have improved over the last few years wrt the slandering and racist remarks and have mostly now carried a passive aggressive attitude. Simply claim India is best and better and cherry pick China bad/incompetent/shit stuff out of context e.g. the carrier example claiming China took 13 years to refit the Ukrainian carrier when it only worked on refit works for 3 years and roughly 3 to 5 years of planning and design work.

Perhaps if the Indians didn't behave in that way, they wouldn't be met with responses that I can see and admit often go a bit far. But understandably because Indians have been acting worse for much longer that an Indian hatred and dislike is starting to brew with more Chinese people. It's about time.

For the last 15 years (until recently) it's only been China thinking of India in neutral terms and certainly not actively disparaging, hostile, racist, and taunting of Indians but Indians for the last 15 years have been horrifically cruel in action and words. Lies and slander upon lies and slander against China aimed at causing harm and encouraging violence and ridicule.

It's no surprise that India gets its just karma. If Chinese are a 10 in cruelty and dislike towards Indians and started from a 0, India has been a 90 and now 100, they've only shifted their ways.

Again, read Indian attitudes and comments about Chinese people and China in general, a great majority of them are capable of some nontrivial evil. They celebrate Chinese disasters, floods, loss of life, aviation disasters (they also celebrated Pakistani aviation disaster). They prayed to their 1000 gods for dam collapses and pain and misery for Chinese. For the last 15 years at least. F em. May they suffer the wrath of their own karma and their lies be turned on them many fold.

It's like how we recall Australians celebrating Chinese floods and Chinese loss of life during natural weather disasters. Saying how it's all the work of the divine... well Australians have been suffering two years of floods and has lost many more lives in that time then the floods in China. Sometimes there is a balance and their ways are turned on them many fold. Rat plague in Australia persists. From fires to floods, rat plagues to losing Pacific nations they themselves opened Pandora's box with East Timor, it is clear the Indians are on a downward trajectory not necessarily because of supernatural forces (that Indians ironically believe in - Karma) but because they spend effort, energy, time, resources on a national scale to spread lies and propaganda. China is a long time overall victim of global propaganda but it carries on doing right for itself as well as it could. It ain't perfect but it's no India either. These sorts of discussions are riddled with the classic Indian twist and turn, scuttling around uncomfortable facts and evidence that debunk and expose their nonsensical and false claims.
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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I initially have high hopes for @Chandragupt to be the pro-Indian voice to balance the discussion and make the thread more engaging, overlooking some of his racist remarks. But it seem to went downhill and discussions have devolved into a China vs India thread.
The best you're going to get is someone like twineedle who just sidetracks and non-sequiturs any discussion. In truth, there's nothing to discuss. India is beneath China's notice; similarly, Jai Hinds should be beneath our notice. Having any threads about India on this forum is a concession we shouldn't be making and grants India far more importance than it's due.
 

ougoah

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I initially have high hopes for @Chandragupt to be the pro-Indian voice to balance the discussion and make the thread more engaging, overlooking some of his racist remarks. But it seem to went downhill and discussions have devolved into a China vs India thread.

They love the passive aggressive approach. No honest direct approach.

It's always "well then how come China failed in this?" proceeding to use a ridiculously cherry picked example and taken out of context with no nuance. Like it's easy to portray the US as an epic technological failure by using the same methods the Indians employ in their internet debates and grand claim making. We don't do it because it ain't true and it's inaccurate. It misleads people and more importantly, it misleads the self. They'll ignore the 1000 cases and events that counter their bs but pick the 1 that confirms their bias and even when doing so, remove context, remove nuance, remove comparisons (others have been worse perhaps or failed in easier tasks etc).

He isn't racist by Indian standards... There are KKK members and skinheads who would consider the Indian level of racism to be a bit much. The Indians just don't have the balls or the courage and honesty to self to show it. They always hide behind their smiles and false friendliness in person because they're not willing to confront in reality. However the argument or conflict goes, they'd get pummeled to physical or intellectual defeated pulp. Reality and truth is India's greatest weakness because it is what India ignores the most and reinvents the most.
 
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Chandragupt

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They love the passive aggressive approach. No honest direct approach.

It's always "well then how come China failed in this?" proceeding to use a ridiculously cherry picked example and taken out of context with no nuance. Like it's easy to portray the US as an epic technological failure by using the same methods the Indians employ in their internet debates and grand claim making. We don't do it because it ain't true and it's inaccurate. It misleads people and more importantly, it misleads the self. They'll ignore the 1000 cases and events that counter their bs but pick the 1 that confirms their bias and even when doing so, remove context, remove nuance, remove comparisons (others have been worse perhaps or failed in easier tasks etc).

He isn't racist by Indian standards... There are KKK members and skinheads who would consider the Indian level of racism to be a bit much. The Indians just don't have the balls or the courage and honesty to self to show it. They always hide behind their smiles and false friendliness in person because they're not willing to confront in reality. However the argument or conflict goes, they'd get pummeled to physical or intellectual defeated pulp. Reality and truth is India's greatest weakness because it India ignores it the most.
Pakistanis and Afghans are way more racist than Indians would ever be and I am talking about making fugly remarks against Oriental faces like mine
What I have observed with my experience is that Eastern Side Of India is less racist towards oriental faces compared to north though there are exceptions everywhere
And India Pakistan dynamics are entirely different from China Pakistan dynamics Pakistan has been carved out of India China was always a separate country
 

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And many many more pieces of clear objective evidence on space tracking organisations and forums proving beyond any doubt that India is no power in space. They have a space industry. They are not a power in space nor are they leading anything in space. Not in space stations (India doesn't have one) not in space labs (none) not in landers (none - one attempt in total failure the entire project has design flaws they have to completely redo rather than a superficial failure of subsystem) not in rovers (none), not in deep space network (none), not in space launch vehicles (far inferior to China's, lesser in numbers, much lower in success rate, very low payload delivery capabilities compared to genuine space powers e.g. even Japan), not in earth observation (I dare Indians to perform a genuine comparison where the Chinese side provides their evidence rather than the usual India ignore all Chinese advances method of "victory"), not in SAR, not in space based comms, not in maneuverable space assets (none for India again), not in space based radars and early warning systems (India has none of note), not in GNS (Beidou is actually superior to GPS in more ways than it is only equal to GPS... and India's is currently the joke of jokes that continue to fail and progress slowly because they simply don't have the industrial or tech basis to progress them at pace).

Honestly there's a list 10 times this long and if you bring in space experts, well it'll be 10000 times this long because each component has a myriad of technologies and subsystems many of which India directly imports... um semiconductors is a major obvious example. Experts would know all the details.

Now again the space better than China? delusions upon delusion to the power of grand delusions.
 
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