That's what happens when you let the harry potters in.
They always believe magic is real & the world is hogwarts
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They always believe magic is real & the world is hogwarts
Um lol no. You sent an orbiter to Mars literally the easiest thing you can do. That was India's first and only Mars mission. A single small orbiter. China's first mission to Mars that it took alone was sending a Mars orbiter, lander, and rover. All of the three worked perfectly on China's first attempt. But you in classic Indian fashion will only want to talk about when China sent a Mars orbiter on a Russian rocket for a joint project with Russia way back in the past. The Russian rocket that the Russians launched failed and you want to ascribe that failure to China. lol can you get more pathetic?
Meanwhile China is superior to India because India cannot develop a Mars lander, cannot land on Mars, cannot develop a Mars rover and cannot drive around on Mars... all things China did. In fact India has to borrow other nation's deep space network for missions involving deep space navigation. China has had theirs for over 3 decades.
You didn't launch 104 satellites in one launch. That launch only had a few microsatellites satellites (less than 10) and 100 pieces or so of useless nothings.
China has launched 100000000 satellites in one launch too. if I count every component as its own satellite.
Can you please be real and genuine?
It only had 3 real microsatellites with a function and purpose and 101 pieces of scrap that was called "satellites". They had zero function and the whole mission for the 101 "satellites" they called "co-passengers" was just to make India claim the world record for most satellites.
It does not hold any record for most useful satellites that actually have a purpose.
You do realise that anything is a satellite right? Literally a piece of paper 10mm x 5mm x 1mm is a satellite.
If China or anyone else wanted to break this meaningless record of India's which btw is so sad and pathetic it's actually a facepalm for us to even mention even as a piece of humiliation to you, then all we would need to do is launch 105 pieces of anything small and light and call them satellites.
Meanwhile a private car company of China managed to develop their own satellites and recently 9 was launched in one vehicle (CNSA's) ... they actually have a purpose.
But yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah India is superior to China in space because it could launch 101 pieces 10mm x 10mm x 5mm plastic with no function or purpose. Ignore human space flight, space labs, space stations, landers, rovers that China has been able to do for decades now and India has not done a single one.
We don't need to go into space launch vehicles themselves. That's like comparing a 1970s Chinese bicycle with a 2022 German car/Chinese NEV. Where India's SLVs are the former and China's SLV's are the latter.
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Think of it as a form of entertainment, better than any chatbot or AI made by human hands.
Well there actually was the new Beijing airport being used to promote a new Indian supa airport a while back... It's kind of like a probability bomb - anything you can dream up will actually happen
Mate you want to compare India's Mars mission - Mangalyaan with China's Tianwen mission?
This is India's pride Mangalyaan which you point to as evidence for your so called space supapowadom.
This entire total payload is 13.5Kg.
China's Mars mission payload.
Payload total weight of China's mission was over 5000Kg.
5000Kg vs India's 13.5 Kg... let's scale India's up and count some debris as Jai Hind supa satellites and say it's 15Kg... that's an order of magnitude over 2.5 better than India's... this is more than just a lot unlike the resolution comparison between India's best Cartosat 3 and China's non secretive Gaofen series where China's resolution is likely at least 1 magnitude better. That's x10^n.
Comparing India and China and claiming India is superior in any way is about as arrogant as Chinese back in 1970 claiming they are superior and surpassing the US. Except Chinese never did that. They actually did more work rather than talk all day like India currently does. Especially under Modi. It seems Modi's entire national strategy is built on narrative and echo chamber. As soon as you really compare and compete the reality shows.
How come india launches 5 to 10 a year while China launches over 40? How come China's total weight in launches in over 10 times greater than India's?
India's heaviest space launch in one single launch and in one vehicle. Combined total payload weight = 4T
China's heaviest space launch in one single launch and in one vehicle. Combined total payload weight = 22.6T
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah sure India is superior much surpass such supa Hind.
This is India's pride Mangalyaan which you point to as evidence for your so called space supapowadom.
This entire total payload is 13.5Kg.
China's Mars mission payload.
Payload total weight of China's mission was over 5000Kg.
5000Kg vs India's 13.5 Kg... let's scale India's up and count some debris as Jai Hind supa satellites and say it's 15Kg... that's an order of magnitude over 2.5 better than India's... this is more than just a lot unlike the resolution comparison between India's best Cartosat 3 and China's non secretive Gaofen series where China's resolution is likely at least 1 magnitude better. That's x10^n.
Comparing India and China and claiming India is superior in any way is about as arrogant as Chinese back in 1970 claiming they are superior and surpassing the US. Except Chinese never did that. They actually did more work rather than talk all day like India currently does. Especially under Modi. It seems Modi's entire national strategy is built on narrative and echo chamber. As soon as you really compare and compete the reality shows.
How come india launches 5 to 10 a year while China launches over 40? How come China's total weight in launches in over 10 times greater than India's?
India's heaviest space launch in one single launch and in one vehicle. Combined total payload weight = 4T
China's heaviest space launch in one single launch and in one vehicle. Combined total payload weight = 22.6T
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah sure India is superior much surpass such supa Hind.
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I think a ban is needed - while momentarily entertaining, it just derails the thread like the sleepystudent reruns.
While I am ashamed to have partaken in the fun, when everyone does this the thread just explodes with nonsense
They professionally brush others off and ignore real progress and news meanwhile they celebrate powerpoint slides to high heavens and back.
These guys are nationalist^nationalist^insecurity. It's beyond words.
Honestly 1970 China was closer to 1980 USA than 2022 India is to 2022 China. These guys think they surpass and are superior as soon as the tiniest bit of (usually false and full of shit and made by Indian "sources") information merely makes a suggestion that xyz detail is true and they clap and go all over the internet announcing how remarkable they are and how powerful they are.
Meanwhile they haven't realised that China actually dominated telecommunications technologies (a bigger deal than tech illiterate people realise), became leading edge in computing (smartphones to quantum computers where there's substantial lead over USA ... where's India's btw? in fact where's India's basic ass supercomputers? oh right they don't have any ... not even ones where they import the entire thing wholesale, dominating car technologies now - supplying Toyota (actually engineering, designing, building an entire car for Toyota) Ford, GM, BMW, Tesla, Apple just to name a few (yes Apple has a car division now) and will soon be supplying VW and many, many others. China actually went from importing and needing 90% dependence on highest tier tech products and equipment to now a mix of both closer to 50% and exporting more than it has ever in technology. From LED to circuitboards, solar panel technology to batteries. India cannot even copy any of that. Not even copying is within India's technological means today. They'll find the most retarded and selective examples in bigger reaches than the "India is better than China at space tech" and greater copes than "buh India killed 1000000000 PLA soldiers that evil seeseepee cannot admit".
Cope and reach is all Indians can do at this point. Rather than establish a working social foundation and begin working, they will talk others down when it suits them and prop themselves up bigger than their imaginations can take them. Through the power of being able to fart whatever they want to say in English but the reality, the evidence, shows India is lesser than 1/6 of China and lesser yet in industrial, scientific, and technological basis as much as they want to say and claim otherwise.
These things the Indians will not bother to understand.
It's like when China revealed the photos and videos showing Chinese dominated the Indians in Ladakh/ Doklam/ Galwan clash (see below*) and Indian forums were full of cope to the point their members were depressed and beginning to take the wool from their eyes and then their moderators had to actually step in and tell them not to embarrass themselves by refusing to cling onto the falsities that have been propped up by the whole Jai Hind (superpower
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to show but a few actual evidence.
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Only if you understand the Bhakt and Hindutva mindset can you understand why they never will. They carry an inferiority complex that the world has never witnessed... conquered for millennia by Muslims and then centuries by Brits. Indians themselves would be fine and decent folks if the great majority were not more aggressive than the Mongols, Russians (and Europeans before they become the wealthiest and controlled pretty much everything) and more desperate for a moment in the spotlight than any other nation/tribe before.
They must regurgitate half truths and plain old lies from propaganda and ignore evidence, reality, general trends that are obvious to all who are unbiased and knowledgeable enough. It is the only thing that allows them to still believe that they are superior humans and superior culture (majority of Indians genuinely believe in one or both of these) certainly they are more racist to east Asians than Hitler was. Look at their forums for a start. You will not read three sentences in a China forum without epically untrue statements and disparaging remarks along with overt racism - bat soup this, chowmien that, gook, chinki, monkey etc. Such is "incredible" India the cesspit of humanity.
Any human being unbiased and genuine to self enough to learn and see what it is like between the two, would agree that Indians are horrifically bad. Meanwhile western propaganda is all about yoga, karmasutra, curries instead of gangrapes, more fraudulent food in one Indian province than China in its entire history, racist attacks and murders, lynchings, attacking Asian looking people and so on. What some Indians really think, they hide from white folks because of the respect they have for them (victims nearly always respect, love, and fear their antagonists) in between the hate they mostly hide. They want to continue the image of peaceful India and how indians are incredible people, kind friendly lovely etc etc. It is a racist attitude to assume one nation or race is overall more kind than another. This simply isn't true. Certain cultures may simply exhibit and express kindness and love in different ways. But the indoctrination and narrative of morally upright India is firm for obvious reasons.
But it's honestly a massive whatever in the grand scheme of things. Everything is.
India now is basically like that person who keeps accusing you of things but will never take it to court - will never allow things to be properly assessed and all the information available on the table. They will prefer to keep it to statements and proclamations in the hopes they reinforce their image and attract foreigners to invest and whatever.
Congrats dude. You leveled up to max
p.s. It's fun to check this thread once a year.
Again in classic Indian fashion, wrong. Another attempt to obfuscate and misrepresent, as always.
JF-17 flew escort for Mirage strikers. Mirage carried the air to ground and JF-17 carried air to air to support. No Mirages were harmed by IAF. IAF couldn't touch the "junk" you call JF-17.
IAF must be the junk of junk then? Couldn't put a scratch or dent on Mirages or JF-17 flying closest to IAF ... far in front of where F-16s were allowed.
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