Huge warship Gathering of US Naval Vessels, December 2012

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If you know the name of a ship you can go to;

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...And find out the status of that ship. Just click on "Ship
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Let's see how the retired carriers are doing..

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You may be surprised at the status of the Enterprise given her present condition.
Kitty Hawk?

The Enterprise date on that page looks like it was last updated in December 2012. Sounds like they need an update there.
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Jeff Head

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Jeff I had posted the
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I see that now. Way to go.

Isn't the Kitty Hawk really the only one we have that is officially "in reserve?"

I mean they are dismantling the Enterprise already, and the others have sat around for a long time. I suppose the JFK is newer, but it seems it was in pretty bad shape when it went in...rode hard and put up wet.

Anyhow, I know they are still tryinbg to get the JFK to be a museum. The Saratoga group gave up on that and pitched in their people and the money they had collected into the JFK effort.

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This would be the first true "super carrier" museum if it comes about.

I am thinking about doing a thread about all five of the current US Aircraft Carrier musems with a lot of detail and pics of each, including the links to their sites, and the location.
 

bd popeye

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Jeff, I don't think the JFK will become a museum. Groups tried to save the America, Ranger & Forrestal all failed. Why? They lacked the funding to support the ships. No money equals no ship. The Midway may be the last carrier museum we see.

Sad but true.
 

Equation

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The only Midway class CV left is the Midway which is an aircraft carrier museum in San Diego.

Only the Kitty Hawk is held in reserve. The other retired CVs are awaiting disposal;


What about the USS Lexington (CV-16) down in Corpus Christie, Texas? Doesn't she count as a Midway Class CV?;)

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Jeff Head

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What about the USS Lexington (CV-16) down in Corpus Christie, Texas? Doesn't she count as a Midway Class CV?;)
No.

The USS Lexington, CV-16, was a World War II Essex Class Carrier. Launched in 1943 and fought in World War II. She was refit in the 1950s with the angled deck and other modernizations and then served until 1991.

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I am thinking about making that a thread here on SD.

popeye said:
Jeff, I don't think the JFK will become a museum. Groups tried to save the America, Ranger & Forrestal all failed. Why? They lacked the funding to support the ships. No money equals no ship. The Midway may be the last carrier museum we see.
Well, we will have to see. They seem very organized, and the group that had been gathering money for the Saratoga has now thrown in with the JFK effort and combined their funds and efforts with that of the JFK...so they are getting closer.

With what all they plan, I have no doubts that once it was done, they would profitably sustain themselves...it's just getting enough denero to get started.

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bd popeye

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these groups have great web sites but without civic support all will fail. The Forrestal group had a very slick website. They wanted to move the ship to Baltimore. The Ranger group wanted to move her to Portland OR. All failed.

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I know I've posted that before but..The USN is not in the ship museum business. They do donate the ship. Please read.. the USN will repo a ship if it not properly maintained.

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Ship Donation Program

The Navy's Ship Donation Program has served the interests of both the Navy and the public since its inception in 1948, providing a tangible reminder of the U.S. Navy's role in American history. Through the authority of Title 10, U.S. Code Section 7306, selected naval vessels which have been determined to be historically significant are available for donation to a non-profit organization or to a State, Commonwealth, or possession of the U.S. or any municipal corporation or political subdivision thereof. As required by 10 U.S.C. 7306, donation of naval vessels must be at no cost to the U.S. Government. The Navy's policy restricts the use of naval vessel donations for the purpose of public display as a museum or memorial. Upon execution of a donation transfer, the Donee assumes title to the vessel and all ownership costs of restoration, preservation, maintenance, operation as a static ship museum/memorial for public display, periodic dry-docking, and ultimately ship disposal.
Objectives

Promote public interest in the defense of the nation,
Commemorate naval history and heritage, and
Safeguard the preservation of donated ships for future generations.

What We Do

The Navy is responsible for designating vessels to be placed on or removed from donation hold status. As the Navy's agent, SEA 21I advertises the availability of historically significant inactive ships placed on donation hold, works with potential donees to determine interest and viability of ship museum projects, provides guidance regarding donation application requirements, evaluates the applications submitted to the Navy for ship donation, and makes recommendations regarding the applications evaluated.

Once a ship is placed on donation hold status, SEA 21I publicly announces the ship's availability for donation via a notice in the Federal Register. The Navy's minimum requirements for ship donation and other ship donation application information is available by clicking on "Ship Donation Application Info" on the right side of this web page. The ship donation application process is a three-phase process. Phase I Letters of Intent and Executive Summaries are due within sixty (60) days of a Federal Register notice. Phase II applications consisting of the Business/Financial Plan and Environmental Plan are due within one (1) year of the Navy's acceptance of an applicant's Phase I Letter of Intent. Phase III applications consisting of Towing, Mooring, Maintenance, and Curatorial/Museum Management Plans are due within six (6) months of the Navy's acceptance of an applicant's Phase II application. Once an applicant meets the Navy's minimum requirements for donation, a recommendation for award is made to the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Research, Development and Acquisition. If two or more applicants are vying for a ship, the Navy will choose the best applicant from among them that meets the minimum requirements. Transfers are made "as is, where is."

Vessels which have been on donation hold from more than two (2) years are subject to being removed from donation hold and redesignated for disposal unless the applicant is making measurable positive progress toward meeting the Navy's minimum requirements for donation. Beyond two years, donation holds can only be extended on a year-to-year basis and are subject to formal review at the Navy's annual Ship Disposition Review conference.

Because title and ownership of the vessel is accepted by the Donee, the Navy is no longer the owner of donated ships. The statutory requirement of 10 U.S.C. 7306 that donated vessels be maintained in a condition satisfactory to the Secretary of the Navy pertains to the use of the vessel in a manner that does not disrespect the veterans that served on these ships or the proud traditions and heritage of the U.S. Navy. Donation transfer contracts between the Donee and the Navy also require the Donee to obtain the Navy's consent to further transfer the vessel or to disposal of the vessel at the end of its useful life as a museum/memorial. This is necessary because demilitarization of warships by complete destruction, usually by dismantling, is postponed when the vessel is donated for museum/memorial use. The Navy's consent is required to ensure that the Donee properly demilitarizes the ship at the end of its useful life as a museum/memorial.

Accomplishments

The Navy's Ship Donation Program has donated 48 vessels to serve as museums and memorials across the country to qualified non-profit organizations and States. The battleship Texas (BB 35) was the first ship to be donated in 1948 to the State of Texas. The destroyer Edson (DD 946) was the most recent donation in May 2012 to the Saginaw Valley Naval Ship Museum in Bay City, Michigan. One donation contract was defaulted in 1980 when the submarine Roncador (IXSS 301) was repossessed due to the Donee's inability to comply with the terms of the Donation Contract and the vessel was subsequently scrapped. In 2011, the Navy approved the Donee's request to dismantle the minehunter Vosseller (MSB 5).
 
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