How many times has your capital city been conquered
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Tasman
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As flyzies said, none of the cities on Australian soil have been conquered although some of my aboriginal friends argue that the area where Hobart now stands was taken from them by force. I have to agree that that is probably true.
During 1942, after the Japanese bombed Darwin quite heavily, there was widespread panic and it is widely believed that the Australian government actually considered abandoning Darwin and everything else north west of a line between Brisbane and Adelaide. General Douglas MacArthur stated in his reminisces that "the Australian General Staff planned to defend Australia on a line of defence that followed the Darling River from Brisbane to Adelaide." There is no official confirmation that this was actually planned and many believe the so called 'Brisbane Line' to be a myth.
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London was never conquered during the Civil War or War of the Roses - it was occupied without a fight, I think.
For William the Conquerer, the war was over before anyone got near London.
In Roman times, what was called "London" wasn't actually the modern city. Boudica burnt it down, then the next Roman city was just abandonned. A new city was made by the Celts - it was then moved again afterwards.
So you could argue that London (i.e. the current city) has never been conquered.
Beijing(Northern capital)
1) captured by Mongols
2) Surrounded in 3/4 directions and then captured when Japan attacked(even though it wasn't the capital of China back then).
Nanjing(Southern capital)
1) captured in 1937
Chongqing and Guangzhou, capital of Nationalist China during the Chinese civil war, conquered by Communists 1949(maybe only getting conquered by foreigners count)...
1) captured by Mongols
2) Surrounded in 3/4 directions and then captured when Japan attacked(even though it wasn't the capital of China back then).
Nanjing(Southern capital)
1) captured in 1937
Chongqing and Guangzhou, capital of Nationalist China during the Chinese civil war, conquered by Communists 1949(maybe only getting conquered by foreigners count)...
Hmm, should we include the even older capitals like Chang An and Xi'an?
BTW, Guangzhou was also under Japanese rule in the war. My grandpa was there then. (Anyone have the map/link to one of how much of China Japan had occupied? My school's books doesn't mention the Pacific Theater AT ALL...except Pearl Harbour and Hiroshima.)
BTW, Guangzhou was also under Japanese rule in the war. My grandpa was there then. (Anyone have the map/link to one of how much of China Japan had occupied? My school's books doesn't mention the Pacific Theater AT ALL...except Pearl Harbour and Hiroshima.)
I know we can be patriotic about the fact we have never been successfully invaded for 1000 years now, but most of what you are saying is crap, there is just no argument of whether London has never been conquered, it has it doesn't take much to conquer a city but it does take much to conquer a country, which is why i think the occupation you said is basically the same as conquering.
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Really? What exactly did I say that was incorrect? Point-by-point, please.
Also I never said London was never conquered - I merely addressed matters raised, presenting an alternative view. As I said:
I did not say what I believed.
You can be patriotic if you like, but I'm just looking at the history. It was Golle, not me, that said London has never been occupied by foreign forces.
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I might be mistaken but your forgetting:
1.) Boxers invasion of Beijing
2.) 8 Nation force that invaded Beijing from the Boxers
3.) English and French Forces captured Beijing in the 2nd Opium War
4.) Manchu captured it from the Ming
well as for london's issue, it migth be fair if we count only the time, when real national-state concept has existed along with the emotional factor that conquered capital brings to it.
In that frame, we can easily say that London has enver been conquered, at least as long as the generally self-aware United Kingdom has existed as such.
But as my intial response, I made a mistake
, Helsinki has actually been conquered once by foreing force. It was during our Civil war in 1918 when the rigth-wingers and land-lords commander's invited little German help and the imperial Baltic Division captured Helsinki that was then firmly in working class hands.