How effective is Chinese Air Force in electronic warfare

Engineer

Major
I also find the prowler story very dubious and hard to believe. Did anyone live near Nanjing during this incident? If there really was aggressive jamming by prowlers powerful enough to cripple the military grade communications of the entire Nanjing MR, what must it have done to the civilian stuff?

People over here just exaggerated the story. I have read the actual story in Chinese, and it mentioned that there were a lot of targets on radar. Fearing an attack, J-7s were sent to intercept the targets and they finally found out there was only a Prowler. I don't think the Prowler was ever in Chinese airspace.
 

vesicles

Colonel
I lived in Nanjing in 96. Don't recall anything weird happening but I might've been at school when something like that happened. Either way no one talked about it.

Man! it sound a lot like an EMP attack.

The Nanjing MR is huge and covers several provinces and thousands of square miles. It would take so much more to be able to cripple communication in such huge area. If such thing actually happened, it would be a major disaster that would be known throughout the world.
 

ahho

Junior Member
Was there any news in the past about country like Israel supplying China with EW technology, or country similar to Israel that have access to US military hardware and selling example to China?
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
Was there any news in the past about country like Israel supplying China with EW technology, or country similar to Israel that have access to US military hardware and selling example to China?

Israel planned on selling China AWAC technology a while back but the deal didn't fall through due to U.S. pressure. There are still a lot of vicious rumours about missile technological exchanges though.
 

Geographer

Junior Member
Don't forget that the PLA can draw on China's massive industrial base which is increasingly high-tech. Think of how many Chinese students are getting PhDs in electronic subjects at the top American universities. Chinese and Koreans dominate PhD programs in the sciences and engineering at American universities. Some stay in the U.S., some return home. China has a lot of smart people to draw on. The question is whether the PLA can use China's human resources effectively. The PLA or China's defense industry has to offer high salaries and a rewarding career path in order to attract the best engineers returning from overseas. The PLA, CAC, etc. are competing with Intel, AMD, Honda, all the world's top companies for their skills.
 

Skywatcher

Captain
People over here just exaggerated the story. I have read the actual story in Chinese, and it mentioned that there were a lot of targets on radar. Fearing an attack, J-7s were sent to intercept the targets and they finally found out there was only a Prowler. I don't think the Prowler was ever in Chinese airspace.

Most likely, the Prowler might have just targeted a single communications node, which would cause a cascade of failures/blockages.
 

solarz

Brigadier
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Images show Iranian military officials inspecting the RQ-170 Sentinel stealth aircraft which appears to be undamaged.

US officials have acknowledged the loss of the unmanned plane, saying it had malfunctioned.

However, Iranian officials say its forces electronically hijacked the drone and steered it to the ground.

BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner says the intact condition of the Sentinel tends to support their claim.


Iran's Press TV said that the Iranian army's "electronic warfare unit" brought down the drone on 4 December as it was flying over the city of Kashmar, about 140 miles (225km) from the Afghan border.

Nato said at the weekend that an unarmed reconnaissance aircraft had been flying a mission over western Afghanistan late last week when its operators lost control of it.

Pentagon officials have said they are concerned about Iran possibly acquiring information about the technology.

Iranian media said on Thursday that the foreign ministry had summoned the Swiss envoy to express its "strongest protest over the invasion of a US spy drone deep into its airspace".

Washington has no diplomatic relations with Iran and US affairs in the country are dealt with via the Swiss embassy in Tehran.

A statement said the ministry had asked for an immediate explanation and had demanded compensation from Washington.

A report in The New York Times on Thursday said the "stealth" drone had been part of a US surveillance programme mapping Iran's suspected nuclear sites.

The US and its allies suspect Iran of secretly trying to build a nuclear weapon - something Tehran strongly denies.

A recent report by the UN's nuclear watchdog said Iran had carried out tests "relevant to the development of a nuclear device".

I've read that both Russia and China have asked to inspect the drone. I'd say they're *very* interested in how the Iranians pulled this off.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Notice how they went out of their way to cover up the bottom of the UAV.

My guess is that the ground station lost contact with the RQ170 and it just glided to the ground and suffered very minor damage.

The first Iranian reports indicated the UAV suffered minor damage, and there have been many famous cases of planes gliding to the ground with only minor damage after their pilots ejected. A F106 did it in 1970; during one of the Arab-Israeli wars where a pilot ejected and his plane glided to the desert and was almost in perfect condition. I also remember a recent case where a French Rafale landed itself in a field after the pilot bailed out.

Now, all this talk of the Iranians over-riding the controls seems almost certain to be exaggerated, but they could still have been responsible for bringing the Sentinel down if they managed to successfully disrupt it's link with the ground station which resulted in the UAV coming down.
 
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