Hong-Kong Protests

voyager1 said:

If after that time HK is still facing same issues and it is not actively working to solve them then I am expecting even bigger and more violent protests.

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1. The National Security Law that was recently passed ensures that Hong Kong's violent protesting days are long gone
2. You underestimate the silent majority in Hong Kong that actually support the reforms that were recently passed, which is understandable when cockroaches dominate western media headlines
3. Beijing won't allow Hong Kong to become the achilles heel of the Greater Bay Area project - if Carrie Lam and the Hong Kong Government doesn't produce results, the Central Government will put someone into office that will ultimately get the job done

crash8pilot said:

1. The National Security Law that was recently passed ensures that Hong Kong's violent protesting days are long gone
2. You underestimate the silent majority in Hong Kong that actually support the reforms that were recently passed, which is understandable when cockroaches dominate western media headlines
3. Beijing won't allow Hong Kong to become the achilles heel of the Greater Bay Area project - if Carrie Lam and the Hong Kong Government doesn't produce results, the Central Government will put someone into office that will ultimately get the job done

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voyager1 said:

China should have imposed the national security law the next day after the British left from Hong Kong.

Instead they played around and allowed this issue to grow to a cancer. Fortunately Xi just performed a rather successful removal surgery and the patient is now healthy.

The HK gov however is now gully responsible for whatever happens. If living standards continue to decline then they should all take the boot and send some of the to prison for corruption in order to teach them a lesson

Now that HK "lost" some freedom with the election seats changed, it is now the Gov responsibility to prove that they can actually produce good results for the people

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voyager1 said:

Sorry mate but making violent protests illegal doesn't mean that it wont happen. Same thing with murder, gov has murder to be illegal but it is still happening daily.

There are certain catalysts for making violent protests happen. One of the them is by grabbing something of them (change election seats to be less Democratic) and then promise them a better future ("now we dont have opossition, we will finaly solve the housing crisis"), if the future promise doesn't become a reality then violent protests will 100% erupt in HK and they would be worse than the 2019(2018?) protests.


Many goverments have made violent protests illegal, but uprisings by the citizens still keep happening...

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voyager1 said:

Sorry mate but making violent protests illegal doesn't mean that it wont happen. Same thing with murder, gov has murder to be illegal but it is still happening daily.

There are certain catalysts for making violent protests happen. One of the them is by grabbing something of them (change election seats to be less Democratic) and then promise them a better future ("now we dont have opossition, we will finaly solve the housing crisis"), if the future promise doesn't become a reality then violent protests will 100% erupt in HK and they would be worse than the 2019(2018?) protests.


Many goverments have made violents protests illegal, but uprisings by the citizens still keep happening...

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steel21 said:

Nobody has a crystal ball.

Had they known the Chinese economy and tech sectors would be as successful as it is today, then sure, it could've bene implemented.

Give credit to the CCP for at least have the audacity to test out how a "democratic system" would play out.

The other thing is that back in 1997, they needed to retain all the capital possible.

No, making it illegal does not make it go away.

What does happen is that the full power of the state can be leveraged against the criminals, their possessions and futures.

No one in Hong Kong can live out their days like Ted Kaczynski, they interact with the grid on a constant basis. There is no escape.

As long as the majority of PRC populace supports the government, there is very limited space for violent protesters to hide, even if some portion of the HK resident supports them. There is just not enough room.

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Gatekeeper said:

Will you listen to yourself. Please tell us when did China ever said eventual universal suffrage? Even in the west, it took hundreds of years before it is universal. Stop twisting to suit what's in your head. You do know your mind twisting wouldn't work here, as the majority of us are highly educated. Right?



Yeah, right. Just like the Catalonia got their epitome of democracy shoved up their backside. Or Chile and Ukraine. How about Vietnam. Shall I go on? Are you and your democracy brothers engineering another coup, because........ the epitome of democracy didn't produce the result you and your cohorts desire?



Hyprocritic people like him will never get over it unless they get what they want...... It is after all.... the epitome of democracy! Lol. Notice he never ONCE condemned all the violence in Hong Kong! Not one post can you find it here.

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crash8pilot said:

All the instigators of violent protesters (your Joshua Wong's and Jimmy Lai's) have already been rounded up, some of them already prosecuted under charges from the newly ratified National Security Law - anybody that has the balls to instigate violent protests will suffer the same fate.... You have to understand that with these new reforms that any sign of protest for independence or any action to instigate violence are now means for prosecution - case and point all my "friends" I grew up with back home that supported violent protests have all changed their names and profile pictures on social media not only because they're worried the newly formed Committee for Safeguarding National Security will find out who they are and what they've done (I have a hunch some of them might've been involved in the riots, but most of them certainly won't shut their trap about Hong Kong independence), more importantly employers simply will not hire people that support the violence for fears of ruining their reputation as well as their business operation.

Beijing and the Hong Kong Government absolutely will not tolerate the return of violent protests, and if the Central Governments track record is anything to go by (i.e Tibet unrest, Xinjiang violence, the events of 1989 etc) I'd almost expect the events of the past to never happen. Moreover I think you've misread/misunderstood what was actually passed - These new reforms have not removed all opposition from legislation, but rather seeks to create an opposition that is loyal to the People's Republic of China rather than to Downing Street or 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Hong Kong remains a vital part of the Greater Bay Area project, and will be further (dare I say fully) integrated into Shenzhen + Guangdong region.

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crash8pilot said:

All the instigators of violent protesters (your Joshua Wong's and Jimmy Lai's) have already been rounded up, some of them already prosecuted under charges from the newly ratified National Security Law - anybody that has the balls to instigate violent protests will suffer the same fate.... You have to understand that with these new reforms that any sign of protest for independence or any action to instigate violence are now means for prosecution - case and point all my "friends" I grew up with back home that supported violent protests have all changed their names and profile pictures on social media not only because they're worried the newly formed Committee for Safeguarding National Security will find out who they are and what they've done (I have a hunch some of them might've been involved in the riots, but most of them certainly won't shut their trap about Hong Kong independence), more importantly employers simply will not hire people that support the violence for fears of ruining their reputation as well as their business operation.

Beijing and the Hong Kong Government absolutely will not tolerate the return of violent protests, and if the Central Governments track record is anything to go by (i.e Tibet unrest, Xinjiang violence, the events of 1989 etc) I'd almost expect the events of the past to never happen. Moreover I think you've misread/misunderstood what was actually passed - These new reforms have not removed all opposition from legislation, but rather seeks to create an opposition that is loyal to the People's Republic of China rather than to Downing Street or 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Hong Kong remains a vital part of the Greater Bay Area project, and will be further (dare I say fully) integrated into Shenzhen + Guangdong region.

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steel21 said:

Haha, they think they can hide by changing their profile picture and or screename. Their understanding of how data works is abysmal......

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AssassinsMace said:

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The guy flies to Hong Kong for his own publicity saying the US is with them and they he stops Hong Kong refugees from fleeing to the US? Maybe Hong Kongers will forgive him like the Q'Anon crowd forgives Congressman Matt Gaetz for being a child molester.

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