Hong-Kong Protests

Gatekeeper

Gatekeeper

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azuazu said:
In four sentences you've managed to equate the act of showing loyalty to your host nation to submitting to slavery and poverty, planting the idea that the only way to freedom and prosperity is sedition and treason.

Skilfully done. May I suggest your next username be 'Serpent in Eden'?
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Noticed this was your question to him about loyalty, slavery and treason.

Mr T said:
If the nation refuses to change its policies to suit the times and needs of the people in question, and also denies the people a straightforward way to select alternative politicians who will bring forward different policies, is that the fault of the populace who ask for change or the central government for refusing to modify its plans?
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Instead you got this answer about policy and reflection of populace and selection of alternatives.

He doesn't like the questions so he'll answered the questions that he would've like to be asked! Don't you feel you're having a discussion with a break wall?

Phead128 said:
You see, your oversimplification of the issue ignores that tremendous hubris of protesters post-extradition bill termination.
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It may seem over simplification. But it's actually more complex. No one is that simple in the real world. Therefore I think it's selective reasoning to make it look simple ie: to break it down to a simple black or white, you're either with or against us. And in doing so he must be right. But as we are know, in real live, life is not like that, it is much more complex.
 
vincent

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Mr T said:
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I'm curious if China will take any further steps. Maybe not. Does anyone here think China needs to take further action, or is this all that needs to happen?
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Why? Let other countries host the murderers, rapists, drug dealers, gangsters, etc. Those people aren’t likely to be model citizens, regardless where they are. Let them have their self-imposed exile and China doesn’t have to support them in prisons.
 
localizer

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vincent said:
Why? Let other countries host the murderers, rapists, drug dealers, gangsters, etc. Those people aren’t likely to be model citizens, regardless where they are. Let them have their self-imposed exile and China doesn’t have to support them in prisons.
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Watch them suddenly behave more obedient than a slave on a white man's plantation. Work for free, praise their lawd, and serve up their women.
 
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ahho

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Sorry, this is in Chinese. Please use your own Google translation etc.

It basically said, the British judges might leave their post and return to the UK if they find themselves compromised by having to apply the newly created Chinese national security law.

It also said that every year, the UK send two judges to Hong Kong to hear the court of appeal! What! Where in the world would allowed that, and the MSM us trying to say Hong Kong is not free!

Good riddance I say!


英國法官可能因國家安全法退出香港 英國最資深的法官警告說，如果國家安全法威脅到法院的獨立性，英國法官將在香港辭職。 最高法院院長羅伯特·里德（Robert Reed）表示，它支持香港法官“致力於維護司法獨立和法治”。法官週五在一份聲明中說，最高法院將“繼續評估局勢”。 里德在對香港局勢的空前干預中說：“新的安全法包含許多引起關注的條款。” “其效果將取決於它在實踐中的應用方式。” 由民主派譴責的這項立法突然對金融中心的普通法體系施加了深遠的影響。它賦予香港行政長官任命法官處理案件的權力，而北京政府也有權管轄一些與外國影響或其他“嚴重情況”有關的“複雜”案件。 自1997年移交以來，英國已派出兩名現任法官在香港終審法院審理案件。

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At first, eventhough I speak Cantonese, I always thought the foreign judges were HK citizen and immigrated as a Judge from Canada, UK, Australia, etc (countries with basic law) I didn't know that they were hired out right from those countries by Hong Kong. Hong Kong should really stop seeking foreign "professionals" for all levels of government services. It is almost like an insult to Hong Kong people. saying they are not capable of the position.

Also, Singapore actually did have foreign judges, but the deceased Prime Minister dropped the usage of foreign judges if I remember correctly
 
Gatekeeper

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ahho said:
At first, eventhough I speak Cantonese, I always thought the foreign judges were HK citizen and immigrated as a Judge from Canada, UK, Australia, etc (countries with basic law) I didn't know that they were hired out right from those countries by Hong Kong. Hong Kong should really stop seeking foreign "professionals" for all levels of government services. It is almost like an insult to Hong Kong people. saying they are not capable of the position.

Also, Singapore actually did have foreign judges, but the deceased Prime Minister dropped the usage of foreign judges if I remember correctly
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It's good to hear a fellow Cantonese person here. I take it you're not from Hong Kong though. So let explains the quirk of the judges and other professions in Hong Kong.

It all basically stem from the colonial days. Back then, ANY British subject has the right to work in Hong Kong and make their fortune and takes it back home with them to retire.
Of course, this is a one way traffic. As Hong Kongers wanting to go to any British empire territories would have to jump through large number of hurdles.

Anyway, so here we have it. Because of this quirk. Any British people can work and live in Hong Kong. It also means they can obtain a Hong Kong ID card after 7 years living in Hong Kong. So these people is happy to keep their British passport, AND still participate in FULL all Hong Kong political and social activities as if they were Hong Kongers.

Case in point, Jimmy Lai who's born in China, but has Hong Kong ID card (on the ground of loving there for 7 years). And holds a Canadian passport!

So these foreign judges with foreign passports can participate in all things Hong Kong because they have ID card. Which entitled them to even sit in Hong Kong's court to pass judgement on recent event with a bias view.

Don't get me wrong, it works the other way as well. Like the English police officer I posted here a few months back shouting "you're a disgrace" to one of the law-majers out on the street supporting the rioters.
 
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