Harrier supersonic?

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
how can they talk about the harrier being well suited for marine missions when one just crashed in a patrol? i know the harrier can be a superb plane if used correctly, but this is just off subject!
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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crazyinsane105 said:
I guess quite a few people read the mistake and sent CNN emails about it. And thank God the Harrier is being replaced. That plane has had the most accidents in the US inventory.

You said it crazy. when I was stationed in the Philippines in '75-'77 the USMC lost 5 while I was there. The plane is great for what it was designed to do. but it's time has moved on...
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
A Harrier Can when used properly take out targets in 4 ways.
1 It's Gatling cannon
2 it's rockets
3 its missiles
4 it's VTOL thrusters.

the Aircraft is suited to marine operations in that it can deploy with the troops with out the need for a large Aircraft carrior. and be deployed in to the air faster then any convetional aircraft it's Vtol means it can land rearm and refuel in places that every thing but a helocoper could not do so. for it's advantages it's loaded with flaws made worse by Marine aviaters who Know how to master the craft being moved to inacticve as soon as they have.

The design flaws of the Herrier were taken in to acount with the F35.
 

Kampfwagen

Junior Member
I heard recently that the USMC might actualy get rid of the Harrier some time soon, probably replacing it with the J-35 Fighter. But they might replace it sooner than the J-35 arrives because of a recent incident where an AV8 II crashed into an Arizona Subburb. No-one was hurt but there was a lot of property damage. It was on MSNBC a few months ago. Aparently, from my understanding the AV8 family has been accident prone despite being an outstanding Air-To-Ground platform.
 

darth sidious

Banned Idiot
EMPIRE

for ground support you need a heavily armoured aircraft like the IL_2 or Su-25
the harrier is very weak structaly machine gun rounds can destoryer it

its air to ground weapons are also very primitive campared with others
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
darth sidious said:
EMPIRE

for ground support you need a heavily armoured aircraft like the IL_2 or Su-25
the harrier is very weak structaly machine gun rounds can destoryer it

its air to ground weapons are also very primitive campared with others
SIDIOUS :nono:

First the IL_2 and SU_25 are Russian Aircraft the American Equivalent is the the A10 Thunderbolt 2 ( better known as the WARTHOG ).

Second in USMC service the Harrier is a Limited anti-Amour, anti-infantry attack aircraft (the Us also uses F/A18's, F16's, AH64 Apaches and AH1 Cobras in this role as close air support and light bombers.USMC does not fly The AH64, F16 or A10.) although Primitive it is quite effective when used properly in perfect conditions. Although there are marine units on US carriers and they are part of the Office of the navy, space is limited to the ships own air-wing. when the Marines want to fly from a ship it's usually a Amphibious assault ship and lacks the Cat to launch a F/A 18 so they use VTOL. and because the USMC is by function a amphibious Rapid reaction infantry service ( still part of the navy ) Marine aviators Primary mission is to support the infantry.
 

bd popeye

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
SIDIOUS :nono:

First the IL_2 and SU_25 are Russian Aircraft the American Equivalent is the the A10 Thunderbolt 2 ( better known as the WARTHOG ).

Second in USMC service the Harrier is a Limited anti-Amour, anti-infantry attack aircraft (the Us also uses F/A18's, F16's, AH64 Apaches and AH1 Cobras in this role as close air support and light bombers.USMC does not fly The AH64, F16 or A10.) although Primitive it is quite effective when used properly in perfect conditions. Although there are marine units on US carriers and they are part of the Office of the navy, space is limited to the ships own air-wing. when the Marines want to fly from a ship it's usually a Amphibious assault ship and lacks the Cat to launch a F/A 18 so they use VTOL. and because the USMC is by function a amphibious Rapid reaction infantry service ( still part of the navy ) Marine aviators Primary mission is to support the infantry.

Excellent post TerraN_EmpirE. As you posted the Harrier was never intended for heavy attack.

Darth the USMC has been operating Harriers since 1972. It is an old airplane whose time is past.

As for USMC avation. Did you know that the USMC squadrons regulary deploy with USN Carrier Air wings? In fact most CVW's have at least one USMC F/A-18 squadron deployed with them. Check out this yahoo search for more info.

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I heard recently that the USMC might actualy get rid of the Harrier some time soon,

True. The USMC wants 609 F-35 JSF. They will probaly get less. I think the first USMC and USN squadrons will be comissioned in 2008.

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renmin

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bd popeye said:
Excellent post TerraN_EmpirE. As you posted the Harrier was never intended for heavy attack.

Darth the USMC has been operating Harriers since 1972. It is an old airplane whose time is past.

As for USMC avation. Did you know that the USMC squadrons regulary deploy with USN Carrier Air wings? In fact most CVW's have at least one USMC F/A-18 squadron deployed with them. Check out this yahoo search for more info.

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True. The USMC wants 609 F-35 JSF. They will probaly get less. I think the first USMC and USN squadrons will be comissioned in 2008.

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the f-35 is designed to replace the harrier in a sense, the first harrier was born in october 1960 while it went through various improvements through out the years. you can see the idea of the harrier is getting pretty old and the US needs an aircraft that can perform all the capabilities of the harrier plus more advanced capabilities. so far, the JSF project is under debt and very expensive so you wont see the USM getting much of these fighters on the first batch.
 

darth sidious

Banned Idiot
:nono: EMPIRE:nono:

you said that the harrier is good for ground attack but there are aircrafts far better then that I mentioned the IL-2 beacuse is one of the best

the only reason the americans use it its beasuse thats the only aircraft that dont need a large run way

1 It's Gatling cannon
2 it's rockets
3 its missiles
4 it's VTOL thrusters

these weapons are pathetic compare with what SU-25or A-10 have

the harrier is a weak aircraft that can be destoryered by 12.7mm bullets not a good choice
 
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