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Deino

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CasualObserver said:
Is it really a necessary capability for Eurofighter? I get that they need to keep the plane up-to-date and that they're developing it for the FCAS either way; but it wouldn't be used in large scale at least until the IOC of FCAS anyway.
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Well, I have to admit, I see Germany's aviation and especially defense industry and its decision-making processes sometimes on the same insane level as India's (although @para80 can surely say more about that!) and yes, I hardly believe that this system is "a necessary capability for Eurofighter". But I think the German side in particular knows that the new fighter with France is far from being a done deal and that there is still a lot of time to go before that happens. So it makes sense to have an interim solution "ready" or at least on offer, even if it's just to show "hey, we're still alive"!
 
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Deino said:
Well, I have to admit, I see Germany's aviation and especially defense industry and its decision-making processes sometimes on the same insane level as India's (although @para80 can surely say more about that!) and yes, I hardly believe that this system is "a necessary capability for Eurofighter". But I think the German side in particular knows that the new fighter with France is far from being a done deal and that there is still a lot of time to go before that happens. So it makes sense to have an interim solution "ready" or at least on offer, even if it's just to show "hey, we're still alive"!
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Yes but what I'm saying is that this capability won't go beyond a few demonstrations until the FCAS actually gets fielded.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan said:
"Muh canards destroy stealth! Chyna J-20 only a 3.5th-gen fighter! Chyna is trash!"

I'm really gonna enjoy the salty tears of these copium consumers whenever a new next(6th)-gen warplane model/design originating from the West that has canards comes out.
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One of the most important design choices when designing a stealth fighter with canards is to make sure that the canard return blends well with the main wing return. What makes a VLO fighter isn't the wing configuration, it is:
  • the number of edges and gaps and the surfuce conductivity
  • serpentine ducts and engine blockers
  • canopy and surface coating
  • buried/internal weapons bay
  • suppressed IR signature (reduced aerodynamic, internal equipment and engine heating+ reduced exhaust fume temp)
  • Radome and sensor housings that reduce reflections
These are the ones that come to my mind right now. We know from open source estimates that the canard return of the J-20 does generally blend well with the wing return and we can see that the point above were implemented into the design on some degree; so "J-20 is a cheap, observable copy" arguments are absolutely baseless by all means.
 
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