Future PLAN naval and carrier operations

Brumby said:

In addition, the LRASM can operate collaboratively in a swarm like manner through networking its multi-modal sensors and offering diverse observation angles to improve target identification. Using its onboard AI algorithm, it can dynamically retarget autonomously. In effect, the swarm protects each other by quantitatively overwhelming defenses when they operate through collective behaviour. Neither the Chinese or the Russian have anything similar because their design philosophy is simply brute force based on speed through a bigger missile to house more fuel. The next phase of the LRASM is to add EA and ECM onto its capabilities.

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Brumby said:

... The swarming features of the LRASM is AI driven where they are able to conduct decision in real time and collectively through a network of data links to ether re-target or cooperate in attacks by sharing information and acting collaboratively.

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Iron Man said:

You're just throwing out random numbers and making wholesale assumptions that have no evidentiary basis of any kind. You have no evidence how much distance a stealth missile can be detected, much less under what conditions and by what sensors, including "EAW" platforms. You just don't even have the faintest clue about any of these things, yet you are making these grandiose assumptions like you somehow do know.

As for cost, you have absolutely no idea about the 'true' cost of any given stealth missile. That "5-7 mil per missile" is a random inflated number you pulled out of literally nowhere, let's be honest here. Not only that, stealth ASCMs don't have to attack with as high a number as standard ASCMs since they can get much closer to the target before being detected. Saturation attacks involving nonstealthy missiles assume that the detecting platform knows about the saturation attack from far away, and can mount a vigorous defense. The scenario plays out as a brute force war of attrition between attacking missiles and defending missiles, CIWS, and ECM. With stealth missiles the detection envelope is shrunk to a significant extent, so that even if the defending platform had enough air defense missiles, they may not have enough time to launch all of them before the stealth missiles are upon them. In addition, both air defense missile and CIWS Pks as well as effective range are invariably decreased against smaller RCS targets like stealth missiles.

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Jura said:

what "slow subsonic swarm" are you giving me??

Saturday at 8:10 PM
and
Yesterday at 10:31 AM
I talked swarms of ca. M2 missiles back in 1970s;
if you want, google something like
p-700+ashm
and
p-500+ashm

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(Reuters) - Chinese government hackers compromised the computers of a U.S. Navy contractor and stole a large amount of highly sensitive data on undersea warfare, including plans for a supersonic anti-ship missile for use on U.S. submarines, the Washington Post reported on Friday, citing unnamed U.S. officials.

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AndrewS said:

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azesus said:

I think its against rules to hot link so I will basically summarize what Mike Griffin, he previously served as Administrator of NASA the recently appointed U.S. undersecretary of defense for research and engineering shares the idea that hyper-sonic missiles is correct tech tree for R&D money and current Defense Sectary Raytheon executive Mark Esper and Joint Chief of Staff Mark Miley agrees with the incoming budget plan, quit demanding insider level expert detail as "evidence" of my claim because obviously I wont have it but I can be a messenger to superficial article and said hypersonic is the agreed direction among experts

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Existing air and missile defense systems are “very effective “are very effective against a threat moving slowly enough to give us time to acquire track, target, and deploy a shooter,” he said, but hypersonics just move too fast for current defenses to intercept.

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Iron Man said:

You're just throwing out random numbers and making wholesale assumptions that have no evidentiary basis of any kind. You have no evidence how much distance a stealth missile can be detected, much less under what conditions and by what sensors, including "EAW" platforms. You just don't even have the faintest clue about any of these things, yet you are making these grandiose assumptions like you somehow do know.

As for cost, you have absolutely no idea about the 'true' cost of any given stealth missile. That "5-7 mil per missile" is a random inflated number you pulled out of literally nowhere, let's be honest here. Not only that, stealth ASCMs don't have to attack with as high a number as standard ASCMs since they can get much closer to the target before being detected. Saturation attacks involving nonstealthy missiles assume that the detecting platform knows about the saturation attack from far away, and can mount a vigorous defense. The scenario plays out as a brute force war of attrition between attacking missiles and defending missiles, CIWS, and ECM. With stealth missiles the detection envelope is shrunk to a significant extent, so that even if the defending platform had enough air defense missiles, they may not have enough time to launch all of them before the stealth missiles are upon them. In addition, both air defense missile and CIWS Pks as well as effective range are invariably decreased against smaller RCS targets like stealth missiles.

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AndrewS said:

...

Griffin's quote below

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Jura said:

Yesterday at 6:12 PM
yeah
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