Future High Speed Helicopter and next generation rotorcraft
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Even i can't deny it. The design is indeed "heavily inspired" by sikorsky to put it mildly
I mean other than the fact that it uses compound rigid rotor helicopter arrangement which being fair Sikorsky was the one brought into the public spotlight.
At present, the turboshaft engine with the largest power output that is readily available in China would be the WZ-10, with the rated output power of 1600-2000 kW.
Meanwhile, the publicly-available power output information of the turboshaft engines for their respective application rotorcrafts (and their respective MTOWs) are as follows:
1. CH-53E Super Stallion: 3x General Electric T64-GE-416/416A/419, ~3270 kW each (~33.3 tons)
2. CH-53K King Stallion: 3x General Electric T408, ~5600 kW each (~39.9 tons)
3. CH-47F Chinook: 2x Lycoming T55-GA-714A, ~3530 kW each (~10.9 tons)
4. Mi-26 Halo: 2x ZMKB Progress D-136, ~8500 kW each (~56 tons)
5. V-22 Osprey: 2x Rolls-Royce T406-AD-400, ~4590 kW each (~21.5 - 27.4 tons)
6. V-280 Valor: 2x General Electric T64, ~3540 kW each (~14 tons)
7. S-97 Raider: 1x General Electric YT706, ~1900 kW each (~5 tons)
8. SB-1 Raider X: 1x General Electric YT706, ~2200 kW each (~6.4 tons)
As can be seen in the list, the only rotorcraft that is within reach of the WZ-10 engines would be the S-97 category, and that's most certainly a smaller technological demonstrator platform than an actual platform for use by the US military.
Needless to say - As soon as the development of the 4000/5000+ kW turboshaft engine is successfully completed and ready for application, the application potential of this engine would be exceptionally massive.
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Technically if they could scale up WZ-10 to do 2200kW-2500kW, it would be perfect for a Raider X type recon/light attack helicopter which was basically a prototype of a production competitor for the FARA program.
MV-75 should use a similar engine to the Osprey for the production model at around 4500kW. I feel like PLAN/Marines may have utility for both sizes of tiltrotor as the larger Osprey sized ones could double as COD aircraft for both LHDs and carriers like what USN is doing while the smaller MV-75 sized one would be of a similar role to well... the MV-75. Both could be powered by variants of AES-500.
AHL would probably be powered by 3 of some variant of AES-500, I don't see utility for a Chinook type helicopter and Mi-26 especially when they are working on the Blue Whale(which would also be using AES-500) which could lift as much as a Mi-26 while providing more range and utility.
Zhuhai airshow 2022
AECC present, 30 kg flow core machine, the maximum thrust is 19-20 tons, and its typical derivative aero engine.
The "30kg/s" gas generator exhibited this time adopts an advanced double-rotor structure with annular combustor design and is used for the core engine of a 30-50-ton heavy-duty helicopter turboshaft engine. It can also be derived and developed into advanced turboprops and propeller fans. Engines for medium and large transport aircraft..
the actual machine was present in airshow with official video and they specifically mentioned heavy duty transport helicopter.
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there is also another 5000KW heavy duty turboshaft Engine AES-500.. development has been completed. probably is in advance stages of testing and evaluation.. we don't have much information just like we have full details of AEP-500 turboprop Engine.
all these next gen helicopters prototype suddenly appeared. these are likely the tech demonstrator. once testing and evaluation complete they will go to next phase means bigger version with more powerful Engines. without Engine supply, this was not possible.
this is the reason why Changhe decided to go alone in AHL project. means Engine is there.
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If they do make a turboshaft out of this one, it could be exceedingly powerful. Like D-136 powerful, could easily power a Mi-26 class helicopter if they wanted to. IMO, this thing could power a 30t helicopter with one engine. Wonder what they are planning with this one.
"4. Mi-26 Halo: 2x ZMKB Progress D-136, ~8500 kW each"
Why not buy this engine first while trying to improve our own?
Ukrainian Engine.
Russia itself is in process to replace Mi-26 Engines with domestic ones.
all Ukrainian Engine plants have been destroyed, labor displaced. so from where China will buy these machines ?? last thing, when China itself can design better engine so why they need to buy from Ukraine. cost and logistics burden
i just post a detailed information regarding Engines. please do read