Funny Stuff Thread.... to loosen your day

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eprash

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Unfortunately a lot of Indians are like this not all obviously we wouldn't have our own nuke and missiles if that were the case you need people with iron spine for that to happen, but as usual the majority has the voice and are roughly comparable to Chinese of 90s, Looking for validation in a new reality and burdened by the need to prove worthiness to their ancient legacy to the nouveau riche west.
 

Coalescence

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Unfortunately a lot of Indians are like this not all obviously we wouldn't have our own nuke and missiles if that were the case you need people with iron spine for that to happen, but as usual the majority has the voice and are roughly comparable to Chinese of 90s, Looking for validation in a new reality and burdened by the need to prove worthiness to their ancient legacy to the nouveau riche west.
Maybe once India become more well developed and economically powerful, the attitude of the majority may change to that of more pride and self worth. The majority in China is slowly losing their perception of the West being worth emulating and stopped seeking validation from them.
 

eprash

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Maybe once India become more well developed and economically powerful, the attitude of the majority may change to that of more pride and self worth. The majority in China is slowly losing their perception of the West being worth emulating and stopped seeking validation from them.
Yeah it's a human thing everyone wants to be with the current winner, I mean just look back at the shenanigans happened in Hongkong, When China replaces US as the pre-eminent power you can bet every European,Indian and their mother to adopt a Chinese name and start swearing how they always believed in Chinese and it's the American round eyes that forced them to do all those stuff before
 

iioklwwelo

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Maybe once India become more well developed and economically powerful, the attitude of the majority may change to that of more pride and self worth. The majority in China is slowly losing their perception of the West being worth emulating and stopped seeking validation from them.

That explains why most Iranians and other third worlders from supposedly revolutionary/anti Western countries also look up to the West.

Having been colonized by the West, all those countries' citizens underwent intense brainwashing sessions to come to admire everything Western as the gold standard worth emulating and look upto.

Except that, only China and India has the population of over 1 billion that they could have resisted Western invasions thanks to their sheer population sizes alone. Other smaller countries like in the Middle East, Vietnam, or Latin America could not do so. This has been the undoing of the Middle East in the last 2 decades really. From the cases of China and India, both nuclear weapons states with publicly tested nuclear deterrence in the form of delivery vehicles, with aircraft carriers denoting their national ambitions, space programs denoting the same and huge population larger than all Western countries combined, we can easily tell that the most important factor - bar none - for national sovereignty and independence is population.

Anybody who fell for the European ruse that smaller population is good for a country finds out to their detriment how disastrous, self-defeating such a policy was and is going to be. If Iraq or Afghanistan had a population in excess of 1 billion people each, would they have suffered the invasions in 2001 and 2003? I would think not.

Iran is your typical third world, colonized, subjugated, Westernized tiny-medium sized country that does not possess the talent, depth, history or civilization to match or defeat the West (remember Iran was conquered by Greeks, as was Egypt, and this was long before Industrial Revolution, so no excuses.). With ambition surpassing its abilities, now Iran is locked between a rock and a hard place.

What is worse is that supposedly independent countries such as China and Russia are unable to act independently: they have acted like vassals of the United States when China, Russia approved UN sanctions against Iran and North Korea.

What is worse is that SCO has not inducted Iran or North Korea as members but India and Pakistan, both Western colonies to this day in effect, are members. It should be clear to neutral observers that Russia and China both lack full independence or sovereignty. Their decisions reflect respect for standards and orders imposed from Washington DC.

We are yet to see UN imposed sanctions against the United States, United Kingdom, France, Poland, Ukraine, Israel, Korea, Japan, UAE or Saudi regimes. Those countries are mostly rich except Ukraine.

It tells you that Russia and China lack sovereignty. They still kowtow to the US with UN headquarters located at New York, with IMF, WB located at Washington DC, with US $ used to price and pay for oil, gas other commodities, with US military placed next to China and Russia but nothing to counter that from China or Russi.

As you have explained well, the core issue is that third world countries suffer from inferiority complex. I hope you are right that with the passage of time, third worlders can gain some dignity back for themselves.
 

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What is worse is that supposedly independent countries such as China and Russia are unable to act independently: they have acted like vassals of the United States when China, Russia approved UN sanctions against Iran and North Korea.

What is worse is that SCO has not inducted Iran or North Korea as members but India and Pakistan, both Western colonies to this day in effect, are members. It should be clear to neutral observers that Russia and China both lack full independence or sovereignty. Their decisions reflect respect for standards and orders imposed from Washington DC.

We are yet to see UN imposed sanctions against the United States, United Kingdom, France, Poland, Ukraine, Israel, Korea, Japan, UAE or Saudi regimes. Those countries are mostly rich except Ukraine.

It tells you that Russia and China lack sovereignty. They still kowtow to the US with UN headquarters located at New York, with IMF, WB located at Washington DC, with US $ used to price and pay for oil, gas other commodities, with US military placed next to China and Russia but nothing to counter that from China or Russi.
The thread is going off-topic, but I wouldn't call some of the examples cited as lack of sovereignty, rather at that time both Russia and China were still trying to maintain good relations with US, because the benefits that can be obtained from US is far more from working with North Korea and Iran.

But lets go with your interpretation, that would mean now both Russia and China are starting to regain their independence or sovereignty with their recent moves like blocking the UN motion for additional sanctions on North Korea and Iran becoming a permanent SCO member last year. The less the benefit they can obtain and the higher the cost of maintaining good relations with US, the more they're not going to entertain what US wishes and do moves that are hostile or against the US.
 

tygyg1111

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Iran is your typical third world, colonized, subjugated, Westernized tiny-medium sized country that does not possess the talent, depth, history or civilization to match or defeat the West (remember Iran was conquered by Greeks, as was Egypt, and this was long before Industrial Revolution, so no excuses.). With ambition surpassing its abilities, now Iran is locked between a rock and a hard place.
Historically Iran was the centre of Islamic literature and science. It punches above its' weight in scientific research and still has the potential to lead the Islamic world
 

AndrewS

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Historically Iran was the centre of Islamic literature and science. It punches above its' weight in scientific research and still has the potential to lead the Islamic world

Iran has a smaller population and economy than Turkey.
It's not credible for Iran to "lead" the Islamic world
 

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