Finnish army thread

[Lavi]

Also a quite common trick is to buy different parts for a weapons system from different places and then put them togheter in Finland.

This little Itpsv 90 is built togheter by a English turret, Swiss cannons and a Polish-built vehicle.

The Finnish Defence Forces website is

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it's in finnish, but has some content in English, and Swedish, as well, and it has quite a number of nice pictures.

 

[Delphi84]

Hmmm... -20 degrees! ok no joke, tat is reeeeeaaalllly cold. But I was just commenting the it is better to train in cooler weather than the typical hot sweltering 31 degrees here. Yar, wat u say is true, it is better to produce own weapons. It is also a good idea to put different parts together to produce a equipment. Same here, the Bionix IFV is a good marry of the 30mm bushmaster gun and a M8 chasis.

 

[MIGleader]

quote:But the use of aircuhsion vessels was cancelled in finnish navy and this truly revolutionar ship was left whitout users and is now tryed to be sold. It was the first time when missileboat and aircushion vessels where succesfully united but sadly the whole process was useless...what a waste...

take off the guns and sell it to china. cnina has been interested in ourchasing aircushionvessels like the zubr class for some time now.

sad...aircushion craft have so many feature you cant do with a regular ship

quote:This little Itpsv 90 is built togheter by a English turret, Swiss cannons and a Polish-built vehicle.
nice vehivcle, with a decnt gun turret. but a polish vehicle=t-72 chassis

 

[Knarfo]

hello, how many soldiers in Fin Amry? and how many population in Finland?
the FAC is so cute. does finland produce their own weapon system or use euro standard? more picture please.

Blame yourself for asking...

All things Finland, by the foreign ministry

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Finnish defence forces "pocket guide"

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...and other guides and publications

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Finnish defence forces homepage in english

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The main producer of arms in finland

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Finnish Swedish joint venuture

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Finnish software radio programme

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Helmets composite armour etc

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[Knarfo]

nice vehivcle, with a decnt gun turret. but a polish vehicle=t-72 chassis

Nope, it is a T-55 alright. The turret is actually more than decent once they got it debugged. The chassis however, is a bit on the small and underpowered side.

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[Knarfo]

Btw, I hear Singapore is attempting to market the Bronco All terrain tracked vehicle to Finland, any latest news?

The bronco is up against the swedish BSv 10 and a possible new joint patria/hägglunds proposal.

 

[Lavi]

Patria/Hägglund or BSv 10 probably takes it, the nordic countries are among the few capable of producing vehicles that actually can operate in subzero conditions.

 

[Knarfo]

Patria/Hägglund or BSv 10 probably takes it, the nordic countries are among the few capable of producing vehicles that actually can operate in subzero conditions.

Because of the strong ties between patria and hägglunds and the desire for more cooperation with sweden I guess you are right. But who knows? Umkhonto might be considered to have been quite the outsider in the competition for a sam for the navy too.
However I do not think the singaporeans lack the capabilty to design a vehicle for subzero conditions. I do not think it is a capability thing. It is more like a set of factors that have to be considered. These are well known. But of course experiance helps. The important thing is testing. It is very likely that the bronco, was designed for broad range of environmental circumstances.
The bronco posesses some uniqe capabilties, iirc, like being able to detach the rear cab and still drive the front end. Not something a nasu or bv 206 can do.
In any case it is likely that whatever vehicle is chosen it will be licence built by patria or patriahagglunds.

The bronco posesses some uniqe capabilties, iirc, like being able to detach the rear cab and still drive the front end.

Crap...
It is the
Active Articulation Vehicle (AAV)
that can split into two driveable units.

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sorry for the smelly stuff in previous post..

 

[Delphi84]

Wow the average soldier in Finland only serve lesser than 1 yr for conscripts, here we serve a minimum of 2 yrs regardless of rank!

 

[Lavi]

From what country are you Delphi84?

Israel has one of the thoughest conscription periods, 2 years for women and 3 for men, but then I read somewhere that their GHQ sees civilians as 'soldiers that are in leave eleven months a year'

In Finland we actually plan on sticking to the system with conscripts, as opposed to e.g. Sweden. There they in theory have conscription, but so few persons serve each year that Swedish military analyticans claim that it can no longer be called general conscription.