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Are you interested in club-talking about financial markets and stocks here?

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Maikeru

Major
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Wondering if this is just the start of a long red period.
TSLA down over 13% now...

Rest of Mag 7 (excpet AMZN) down over 5%.

I wonder if there is any chance that Mag7 etc. might return to some sort of vaguely realistic P/E ratio? If so, there's a LOT more to fall.

Edit: Looks like strong support at $200 but beyond that next stop ~$150:

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Randomuser

Senior Member
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TSLA down over 13% now...

Rest of Mag 7 (excpet AMZN) down over 5%.

I wonder if there is any chance that Mag7 etc. might return to some sort of vaguely realistic P/E ratio? If so, there's a LOT more to fall.
If that happens, it's going to be painful for a lot of people for a while. Forget even being employed, just wonder how youre still gonna have a house or savings.
 

4Runner

Junior Member
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A week later ... this is definitely a correction, even according to the Wall Street definition. From this point on, it is anybody's guess, depending on one's risk appetite. There are so many domestic and international factors that have direct impact on S&P 500 trajectory during Trump 2.0 (barely 2 month old). For the long-term 401K account, it could be another buy opportunity. For trading, all I can suggest is to (1) be defensive and (2) move fast.


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4Runner

Junior Member
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I am incrementally getting into some liquid China ETFs until Shanghai Composite Index crosses over 4000.
I had been incrementally buying FXI when it was below 33. If it dips below that again in the current context of NASDAQ correction, I would continue.
 

4Runner

Junior Member
Registered Member
Who could have thought that the trigger to the US stock market correction came from an unknown home-grown quant/startup called DeepSeek in a heavenly city named Hangzhou.

Even though US media today is blaming uncertainty from Trump 2.0 actions in the past 7 weeks, the fundamentals had been there for years. Up till DeepSeek-R1 release, common belief and narratives in the US financial markets were that, with US dominance in AI, everything would be just fine, including historically high valuation of S&P 500. It was really deja vu all over again looking back 25 years during the first internet bubble between 1999 and 2001. Just like the movie Margin Call portrayed, the Wall Street just cannot control themselves or alter their behavior; it just repeats over and over again.

As I said after the DeepSeek-R1 release, it essentially helps reset the financial valuation models on China stock markets. What I did not elaborate was that, at the same time, it also helps reset the valuation models on the US stock markets.

So we are now seeing some divergence between CSI 300 and S&P 500. I am always confident that Shanghai Composite will get back to 4000~5000 in 2 years. But the current trajectory may expedite this re-valuation process because this phenomenon is going global rather than just Chinese domestic economic development.

Just recall a few months ago Biden was yelling in his state-of-the-union address that Xi was in a bind and Chinese economy was in a shitty place. That was less than a year ago ...... When will US politicians learn some real historical lessons on China? Sigh ......


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Hyper

Junior Member
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It did not fall due to Deepseek. More likely due to tariffs. If they want lower rates then yes influencing a market crash will lower yields.
 
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