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crobato

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I am not fully convinced of the advantage of supersonic AshMs.

To maintain their range and speed, they have to fly at a higher altitude which means an easier detection, although your warning time is still short.

There are reasons why they cannot fly very low. The faster and lower you are, the more you have to deal with turbulence issues.

The lower you are, the more you cannot evade. It is easier at higher speeds to overtorque your controls, so instead of being able to minutely fine tune your altitude, you over do the adjustment and end up hitting the surface.

Since supersonic AshMs have to be much bigger to house fuel, they are inherently less agile than smaller, subsonic missiles.

But then of course, the ROCN is covering both bases with the HF-IIE, and while Standards have shown to be capable of intercepting supersonic missiles (well, more like Vandal drones instead of the true thing), the PLAN does not have Standards.
 

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more news pictures of 054A, this is the first launched one currently doing sea test.
A lot of pictures of its sensors.
 

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more pictures including the main gun, a dummy Z-9C and a side view of the VLS.
 

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yehe

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I gotta say, considering the small size of this ship, its pretty capable,
Although I have a question about the HHQ16 SAM, considering the targeting radar installed on 054A, I would presume its a point defense system instead of a area defence system?
 

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Its not really that small, it looks as big as the older 051 Ludas. Next generation of frigates, not just in China but around the world, appear destroyer sized, which is cruiser sized by older standards.
 

yehe

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Its not really that small, it looks as big as the older 051 Ludas. Next generation of frigates, not just in China but around the world, appear destroyer sized, which is cruiser sized by older standards.

Its a 3000ton frigate, the old Luda is still several hundred ton larger, besides I mean compared with newer gen european frigates, the new German frigate F125 is over 2x heavier, almost 7000ton, basicly a heavy DDG with slower speed.
 

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It looks to me that the 054A is at least 4000 tons. Some one drew up a scaled comparison not too long ago of different PLAN ship classes and the 054A looks larger than the 051.
 

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Its a 3000ton frigate, the old Luda is still several hundred ton larger, besides I mean compared with newer gen european frigates, the new German frigate F125 is over 2x heavier, almost 7000ton, basicly a heavy DDG with slower speed.
the full displacement of 054 according to a military magazine is 3900 tonne and standard is 3600. 054A should be slightly more.
 

xiyanz

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Its a 3000ton frigate, the old Luda is still several hundred ton larger, besides I mean compared with newer gen european frigates, the new German frigate F125 is over 2x heavier, almost 7000ton, basicly a heavy DDG with slower speed.

054A is definitely ALOT BIGGER than the Luda. Just look at this picture right here. 054 is clearly much longer and much wider. If luda is 3500 tons, then 054A must be 4500 tons.

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kickars

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054A is definitely ALOT BIGGER than the Luda. Just look at this picture right here. 054 is clearly much longer and much wider. If luda is 3500 tons, then 054A must be 4500 tons.

[qimg]http://www.calf.cn/attachments/day_070611/20070611_c420cd95894161364f3c7jRgkbMruIB8.jpg[/qimg]

From this picture, 054A does look longer and taller than 051. Therefore it should be more than 4000 tons. I'm not sure if it's wider though.
 
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