Falklands War, 1982, Thread

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Guys, remember the rules.

Discussions of nuclear war are prohibited.

I simply recommended a book that is a good read and gives a great history of the War...and does a very good job presenting both sides.

Please stop the discussion of nuclear war.

Besides, it is absolutely ludicrous and a conspiracy theory to believe for an instant that England would have nuked Argentina over those islands in any case.

As it was, they showed they could take them conventionally...but the Argentines...even at max range for the A-4s, gave England a LOT MORE FIGHT than it thought it was going to get.

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What idea talking for it for this War !!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


So :)

A summary in number datas, sources especialy in my previous links

And watching yet Anxious French TV news ofc but very young hehe


The British Fleet get ready in 5 days with ground troops aicrafts embarked !

20 combattants including some from Gibraltar also which joins the main force en route for the Falklands about 14000 km from UK !!!

1 CV Hermes with 30 aircrafts : 12 Sea harrier, 9 Sea King ASW, 9 Sea King Trp
1 CVL Invincible with 20 aircrafts : 8 Sea Harrier, 12 Sea King ASW

Total for the War 28 Sea Harrier 20 + 8 Rfts and 10 Harrier all in Rfts
Sea Harrier destroy 21 Argentinian fighters without losses ! 28 % of the total.

- 5 DDG : 3 Sheffield + 2 County after in Rft 2 Sheffield + 1 Bristol
- 7 FFGs : 2 Broadsword, 3 Amazon, 2 Rothesay
- 5 SSNs and 1 SSK

In Rft 11 Combattants
3 DDGs
8 FFGs

Total 31 Combattants

Have participated by classes in more CVs and unique Bristol :
5 Sheffield, 2 County, 2 Broadsword, 7 Amazon, 4 Leander, 2 Rothesay, 2 Swiftsure, 3 Valiant/Churchill, 1 Oberon

In more 8 AA ships
2 Fearless, 6 Round Table class, also known as the Sir Lancelot class

Severals Civils can' t landing troops no LCU only transport.
Canberra, Nordland, Stromness, Queen Elisabeth she don' t going around Islands trnasfering the 5th Brigade in others ships.

Embarked in the Hermes also 3th Commando Brigade Royal Marines reinforced with 5 Inf bat plus others elts quite sure about 6000 troops.
5th Brigade in Rft join after they have 3 Inf Bat plus others elts3000+ troops.

14 Replenishments ships
8 around Falklands the rest between these islands and UK

- 4 Fleet replenishment ships supplied ammunition, food and dry stores:
- 5 Fleet tankers carried all three types of fuel as well as fresh water, and could replenish three ships at a time, including one astern:
- 5 Support tankers normally transported ship and aviation fuel

At this time 04/82 RN have 90 combattants !

- 2 CV in fact 1 CV and 1 CVL
- 13 DDGs : 1 Bristol, 4 County, 8 Shefffield
- 45 FFG/FF : 8 Rothesay, 8 Amazon, 26 ! Leander, 3 Broadword
- 11 SSNs : 6 Swiftsure, 5 Valiant/Churchill
- 19 SSKs : 13 Oberon, 6 Porpoise
- 2 LPD Fearless

Royal Fleet Auxiliary
About 20 ! repl ships
Royal Fleet Auxiliary, which like its parent service sent a large proportion of its strength to the South Atlantic before the end of the war - no less than 22 of the 27 ships in commission.
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Less 6 Round Table class and some others
 
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DDGs

Note : The SAM Sea Dart was anti-ships capable but with a very small warhead 11 kg ( MM 38/AM-39 165 kg a difference ) not sea skimming but supersonic.

Bristol unique the more big arrived in Rft leading a TF the better armed for AAW with 38 missiles but few versatile don't have hangar for ASW helos however Ikara.
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Sheffield cheaper variant of Bristol smaller " only " 22 Sea Dart but versatile with a helo for ASW helo.
5 engaged Sheffield, Coventry, Glasgow, Exeter, Cardiff

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County first British DDG armed with old Sea Slug less capable than Sea Dart clearly for the rest same remarks than for Sheffields but these batch 2 ( batch 1 retired ) have 4 MM-38 replacing a turet, the Wessex MK 3 few capable vs Submarines.
2 engaged : Antrim and Glamorgan
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I built my Illustrious thinking of the Falklands, even though I built it out in ins newer refit configuration.

Just the same, her commissioning was pushed up three months early and was rushed into effect because of the Falklands War of 1982 with Argentina over the Falkland Islands which the Argentines had occupied and which the United Kingdom sailed to take back.

Illustious' sister ship, the HMS Invincible, R05, had been sent with the task force to the southern Atlanitc Ocean to implement that strategy, and for which the Illustrious would stand as a back-up and replacement if the Illustrious were damaged, or as a relief during or at the end of the war.

After the fighting, until the RAF airfield on the Falkland Islands was repaired, air defense of the area was the responsibility of the Fleet Air Arm. Once Illustrious relieved the Invincible (the Hermes had already departed fro England) in August of 1982, the 809 Naval Air Squadron embarked on the Illustrious provided this air defense coverage.

In march of 1983, Rear Admiral Derek Reffell commanded the relief task group from Illustrious .and with the RAF airfield then repaired, Illustrious returned to the UK and was formally commissioned on 20 March 1983 into the Royal Navy.


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I sure miss these vessels. They were not huge. They were not overpowering...but they were capable, and the RN sailors kept them completely squared away.

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Jeff Head said:
I built my Illustrious thinking of the Falklands, even though I built it out in ins newer refit configuration.

Just the same, her commissioning was pushed up three months early and was rushed into effect because of the Falklands War of 1982 with Argentina over the Falkland Islands which the Argentines had occupied and which the United Kingdom sailed to take back.

Illustious' sister ship, the HMS Invincible, R05, had been sent with the task force to the southern Atlanitc Ocean to implement that strategy, and for which the Illustrious would stand as a back-up and replacement if the Illustrious were damaged, or as a relief during or at the end of the war.

After the fighting, until the RAF airfield on the Falkland Islands was repaired, air defense of the area was the responsibility of the Fleet Air Arm. Once Illustrious relieved the Invincible (the Hermes had already departed fro England) in August of 1982, the 809 Naval Air Squadron embarked on the Illustrious provided this air defense coverage.

In march of 1983, Rear Admiral Derek Reffell commanded the relief task group from Illustrious .and with the RAF airfield then repaired, Illustrious returned to the UK and was formally commissioned on 20 March 1983 into the Royal Navy.


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I sure miss these vessels. They were not huge. They were not overpowering...but they were capable, and the RN sailors kept them completely squared away.
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Possible do more fast and much in War time or even Crisis time.

After they build a big air base to Mount Pleasant hosting F-4s after Tornados F2/3 and now a flight of 4 Typhoon with in more a A-330MRTT, a C-130 and Sea Kings for SAR.

For Weather during this campaign, very difficult, cold températures coz in autumn in the far South, rough sea and some days impossible air operations.
 
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Frigates, 15
Argentinian Navy yet get ready :D

Very good site to see
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British ships have also Torpedoes launchers ofc for Destroyers and Frigates and guns of 20 mm in general 2 by ship.

Amazon, the more numerous classe.
7 engaged : Active, Alacrity, Ambuscade, Antelope, Ardent, Arrow, Avenger
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Broadsword, 2 engaged Broadsword and Brilliant all new very good close AAW defense with the new Sea Wolf 12 in launchers + 26 reloads ! hangar for 2 Lynx robust ASW capacity and logicaly the 2 detached for protected landing fleet to San Carlos Bay.
Weaknesss no main gun.
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Leander, 4 engaged : 3 Batch 2 MM-38/Sea Cat Argonaut, Minerva, Penelope and one Batch 3 Seawolf /MM-38 the Andromeda which have 20 Seawolf, launcher in front of MM-38.
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Andromeda
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Rothesay the more old less capable, 2 engaged Plymouth and Yarmouth.
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Downing of a sea Harrier in 1982 Documentary in Spanish

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