F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Remember in the late 60s theUS was convinced that Mig25 was a super fighter. With look down shoot down radar, excellent close turning and maneuvering for knife fighting.
They designed a whole new generation of American fighter to counter that. The F15. Then a Mig25 landed in Tokyo, the fact it was a high speed interceptor with a turn rate the size of a medium country.
They designed a whole new generation of American fighter to counter that. The F15. Then a Mig25 landed in Tokyo, the fact it was a high speed interceptor with a turn rate the size of a medium country.
and then along came the Mig-29 which is extremely agile, followed closely by the Su27, which is an amazing aircraft by any right, no doubt why China bought the Su-27, Su-30, and lately the Su-35....
And I intend to keep it that way, by designing, building, and operating the most advanced fighter aircraft on the planet. Every weapon system has vulnerabilities, nothing is perfect, and the S-300, S-400 may indeed be superior to the Patriot??
I have no doubt that either the F-35 or F-22 will have no trouble taking out these systems by the gross!
None!
Brumby
Major
You are right in that it is about the capability of the F-35. It is able to go where the mission demands and the Iranians were simply unable to prevent it is what matters. It is a demonstration of capability and the impotency of the S-300 against such capabilities.
Hubris doesn't give you distance beyond your intended echo camber. If you wish to be taken seriously you need to provide facts. So far you have just provided a hotchpot of marketing materials. You have not provided any arguments to make your case. For example you said the following :
Do you actually understand what that statement means in radar terms? If you do, please explain how does that make the F-35 get into deep trouble?
Jura The idiot
General
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Brandi Schiff, the F-35 program spokeswoman:
"Recent findings suggest that the principle cause is a change to the sealant between the transparency and the aircraft frame introduced in 2015 as a cost saving measure, which can be corrected by reverting to the previously used sealant."
Brandi Schiff, the F-35 program spokeswoman:
"Recent findings suggest that the principle cause is a change to the sealant between the transparency and the aircraft frame introduced in 2015 as a cost saving measure, which can be corrected by reverting to the previously used sealant."
Jura The idiot
General
Lockheed Martin Confident Other Customers Will Buy Turkey’s F-35s
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"Starting with lot 15, Possenriede said the company hopes to transition to a firm-fixed-price contract. Doing so will allow Lockheed Martin to retain more of the difference between what the company spends building the aircraft and what the Pentagon and foreign partners pay for the aircraft.
“Firm-fixed-price will give us more opportunity to recoup the (cost) underruns,” Possenriede said."
[Mr. Possenriede is the LM CFO]
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"Starting with lot 15, Possenriede said the company hopes to transition to a firm-fixed-price contract. Doing so will allow Lockheed Martin to retain more of the difference between what the company spends building the aircraft and what the Pentagon and foreign partners pay for the aircraft.
“Firm-fixed-price will give us more opportunity to recoup the (cost) underruns,” Possenriede said."
[Mr. Possenriede is the LM CFO]
Talk is cheap.
To see the capabilities follow the money.
Russia invest a lot into SAMs, but not they are the only ones, the list including China, Iran, both Korea , Turkey , India and so on.
Several cases the development /procurement funding prioritised the SAMs against other systems, like early warning radar / interceptor jet combination.
Example NK prioritised the funding to they homemade SAM system, similar like the S-300, and Iran is the same.
I mean, when the time come they needed the S-300, not a lot of early warning radar + Su-30/35 combination.
And in the case India, Turkey they prioritised the SAM systems ahead of F-35/Su-57 .
The Turkish F-35/S-400 is an example for an advertisement that you can not buy. Because money talk.
Can you interpret the next :
1.Area of Iran
2.Coverage of an s-300 battery
3.The ratio of the two.
After that you can asses your statement about the capability / impotency.
F-35 has market materials, advanced SAM systems ( like S-300) has customers. Big difference, isn't it ?
The US navy buying F-18, the Air force plan to buy ten fighters as well.
Again, money talk.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Talk is cheap, yet that is the source of most of the claims of anti stealth. Talk.
That is the source of much of the claims against F35 Talk by the likes of RT. And Russian media trying to sell S300 and S400.
Because F35 is not yet in full production or fielding these SAM systems are more targeted to defend against existing potential threats than emerging threat types.
SAM systems can picket but no nation save for the Vatican state or Singapore can afford to picket every mile around their territory with enough radars to fill every potential gap with radars.
It’s impractical at best. All they can do is erect them around high risk targets.
Anti Stealth radars have thus far only been early warning systems with longer ranges then existing but still nowhere near the full range capability of the SAM they are mated to. S400 brags about 400km as the range yet it’s anti stealth is probably >100km depending on conditions. Any air defend system anti stealth or otherwise is going to be able to track a VLO at >40km. That’s just the physics. Stealth is electric camouflage not a Star Trek cloaking device. Jamming and countermeasures improve in regards to counter counter jamming and countermeasures. The better bullet the better armor and so on.
S300 has marketing materials and sale to nations more worried about 4th gen fighters.
S400 is the same worry.
That is the source of much of the claims against F35 Talk by the likes of RT. And Russian media trying to sell S300 and S400.
Because F35 is not yet in full production or fielding these SAM systems are more targeted to defend against existing potential threats than emerging threat types.
SAM systems can picket but no nation save for the Vatican state or Singapore can afford to picket every mile around their territory with enough radars to fill every potential gap with radars.
It’s impractical at best. All they can do is erect them around high risk targets.
Anti Stealth radars have thus far only been early warning systems with longer ranges then existing but still nowhere near the full range capability of the SAM they are mated to. S400 brags about 400km as the range yet it’s anti stealth is probably >100km depending on conditions. Any air defend system anti stealth or otherwise is going to be able to track a VLO at >40km. That’s just the physics. Stealth is electric camouflage not a Star Trek cloaking device. Jamming and countermeasures improve in regards to counter counter jamming and countermeasures. The better bullet the better armor and so on.
S300 has marketing materials and sale to nations more worried about 4th gen fighters.
S400 is the same worry.