F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

[Jura The idiot]

Friday at 8:47 AM

related to Dec 21, 2016
is (LOL I don't post the headline)

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now this story (dated Jun 27, 2018):
U.S. Marines ‘Strike’ First F-35B From Inventory

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With little fanfare, the U.S.

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decided in May to remove the first

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short-takeoff-and-vertical landing fighter from its inventory after a cost-benefit analysis determined repair was not justified.

In October 2016, the jet suffered a fire in its weapons bay after a training flight. The pilot landed the aircraft safely at Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort, South Carolina. The aircraft was assigned to Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 501.

“The process of striking an aircraft is a measured balance between repair costs and potential return on investment—flight hours, service life, etc.,” Marine Corps spokesman Capt. Christopher Harrison told Aerospace DAILY.

The service has not determined whether the damaged aircraft will be used as a museum centerpiece or a trainer for maintenance procedures. This F-35B was the first that

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delivered to the Marine Corps, he said.

The Marine Corps declared the F-35B ready for war in 2015, and earlier this year the aircraft made its first deployment aboard the amphibious assault ships Wasp (LHD-1) with the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit.

“The F-35B is a game-changer for the Marine Corps,” Lt. Col. Richard Rusnok, VMFA-121 commanding officer, said in a statement.

The U.S.

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in an October 2017 report highlighted the Marine Corps’ initial F-35 deployments on ships in 2018, and potentially the initial ship deployments for the U.S. Navy, will not include required intermediate-level maintenance capabilities. Such capabilities provide a level of support between the squadron and the depots so that repairs can be done at sea. The Pentagon has identified initial intermediate capabilities that it plans to implement, but funding is not in place.

“These decisions will trigger other requirements and related costs that must be planned for—such as for personnel, technical data, support equipment, and updates to policies governing the maintenance of spare parts—before the capability can be implemented,” according to GAO. “For example, program officials told us that once determinations are made about intermediate-level maintenance, the program will have to develop a plan that specifies what technical data rights are needed, and when, to facilitate intermediate-level maintenance, and will then have to negotiate with the contractor to obtain those technical data rights.”

Lockheed Martin owns 100% of F-35 sustainment, including data rights. Pentagon pricing chief Shay Assad said last October that intellectual property is a focus of the

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’s deep-dive cost review because it is imperative to the F-35 sustainment strategy.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

Despite this one loss, I have to say it's pretty remarkable that this is the only class A mishap for the F35.

 

[Jura The idiot]

Despite this one loss, I have to say it's pretty remarkable that this is the only class A mishap for the F35.

how was it with Sep 24, 2016

... FlightGlobal

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now: Fire damages F-35A during Mountain Home deployment

?

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

Oh I stand corrected. but still. by now You would have expected one crash.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Despite this one loss, I have to say it's pretty remarkable that this is the only class A mishap for the F35.

the Air Force had a write off on an A model at Eglin from an engine casing rub through and ensuing fire. So that's actually 2 full write offs, the Marine B and the Air Force A model, as well as the Idaho fire, which was actually preventable and almost more operator error than an aircraft issue as they had a very strong wind from the stern blowing up the pipe, had the aircraft been pointed into the wind, it likely would have been a very minimal issue!

 

[Air Force Brat]

Oh I stand corrected. but still. by now You would have expected one crash.

Thank God that doesn't happen nearly as frequently as it used to prior to computer aided design and FCS, although a bad FCS contributed to the loss of an F-22 at Edwards I believe.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

That's my point. This has been a remarkably safe aircraft. All the Class A's have been on the ground.

 

[Air Force Brat]

That's my point. This has been a remarkably safe aircraft. All the Class A's have been on the ground.

Exactly!, and thankfully flight test is not the "man-killer" it used to be, in the early days of flight, many aviators lost their lives in the course of everyday flight ops, not to mention the high loss of life from flight test. Edwards Air Force Base is named in Memorial to Glen Edwards, and everybody remembers that infamous clip of an F9F plowing into the aft end of the aircraft carrier, or the F-100 that experienced a loss of control due to an airflow anomaly as he was coming in to land?

I think a pitch "un-couple" or some such name, but the last serious airplane with issues were the early F-14's....

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

I think a pitch "un-couple" or some such name, but the last serious airplane with issues were the early F-14's....

Yeah F14 prototype one was lost in the first flight.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Yeah F14 prototype one was lost in the first flight.

Yep, I believe they had a double flame-out and ensuing rather dramatic low altitude punch out, as the movie Top Gun implied, the F-14 could get very squirrely at times, and had some issues when punching out! Extremely sad that the new "Top Gun" is going to be featuring the poor little Super Hornet, instead of the F-35??