F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

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dtulsa said:
Modernisation sound like more money thought the 35 was be all and end all of fighter design and didn' need more power guess I was wrong
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If you're able to lower the combustion temperatures, while reducing fuel flow and increasing power, that's a win, win, win... a big win, and as a benefit, we will have less erosion and wear on compressor blades, bearings, and all sorts of other neat stuff! mean time between overhaul goes way up when you reduce temperatures!
 
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dtulsa said:
Modernisation sound like more money thought the 35 was be all and end all of fighter design and didn' need more power guess I was wrong
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There were always going to be system upgrades and updates in the pipeline. LockMart has been offering an upgraded EOTS 2, there has been interest in longer range development of a follow on high effecentcy engine for the F35 longer term this sounds like a nearer term. There as been investigation of potential DEW longer term and no doubt radar and system work. The Helmet has gone though a few redesigns to reduce weight and new weapon options are no doubt to be added down the line.
 
Jura The idiot

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dtulsa said:
Modernisation sound like more money thought the 35 was be all and end all of fighter design and didn' need more power guess I was wrong
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I said 'sales talk' in the post you quoted, as the manufacturer would be happy to pull off the current engines of F-35s to sell new ones, claiming this actually saves cost to the Pentagon LOL
 
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dtulsa said:
Modernisation sound like more money thought the 35 was be all and end all of fighter design and didn' need more power guess I was wrong
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in addition to what I said right above, another 'justification' for a new engine could be, now listen, lasers on F-35

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"... If the
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lift-fan were removed, its main engine could be tapped to power a high-energy laser in a similar fashion as its lift fan already does. ..."

or a cloaking device LOL
 
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May 26, 2018
Jura said:
Apr 27, 2018 now Turkey threatens retaliation if new bill stops F-35 sale
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and Despite some opposition, US on course to deliver F-35s to Turkey on June 21
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The U.S. government is proceeding with plans to
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, with the country set to
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from some in Congress.

A Lockheed Martin spokesman confirmed to Defense News that it’s still gearing up for a rollout ceremony at its production facilities in Fort Worth next week.

“The F-35 program traditionally hosts a ceremony to recognize every U.S. and international customer’s first aircraft. The rollout ceremony for Turkey’s first F-35 aircraft is scheduled for June 21,” the spokesman said in a written statement to Defense News.

“The aircraft will then ferry to Luke Air Force Base, Arizona, where Turkish pilots will join the F-35A training pool.”

The Senate is set to vote this week on the annual defense policy bill, which includes language that would prohibit the U.S. government from “transfer of title” to Turkey until the time that the Defense Department submits a report to Congress on removal of Turkey from the F-35 program.

But even if that language succeeds in the Senate, the defense policy bill will proceed to conference, where a group of armed services committee members will hammer out differences between the House and Senate versions to emerge with a single, final piece of legislation. That process could take months.

Congress’s opposition to allowing Turkey to purchase the F-35 hovers around two points: the country’s detainment of American pastor Andrew Brunson and a deal to purchase the Russian S-400 air defense system.

But for now, it appears that the Defense Department has no plans to keep Turkey from getting its first F-35 or to put restrictions on its use at Luke AFB.

Thomas Goffus, the Defense Department’s deputy assistant secretary of defense for Europe and NATO, acknowledged during an Atlantic Council event Wednesday that Turkey’s acquistion of the S-400 could present the U.S. military and NATO alliance with added technical risks.

But he would not go as far to spell out what actions the Defense Department is considering or could consider later down the road — perhaps a sign that the Pentagon is waiting to see how this legislation shakes out.

“We have a process to evaluate the risks to Western technology that that [procurement] would present. Our preference is that they do not acquire the S-400,” Goffus said.

“Given that, they are a sovereign nation, and they are trying to take care of their defense needs,” he added. “What restrictions are placed on them and what Congress will eventually pass, I can’t even speculate on it on this point.”

By the time Congress passes legislation that could curb Anakara’s F-35 ownership, the country will likely have already started building up its first squadron at Luke AFB. There, Turkish pilots and maintainers will train alongside U.S. ones, moving from academic courseware to live flights.

NATO and U.S. Defense Department officials have warned Turkey that if it continues down the path of purchasing the S-400, it will not be able to plug it in with NATO technologies like the F-35. SASC, in its policy bill, echoed those concerns, saying that Turkey’s purchase of Russian hardware would “degrade the general security of the NATO alliance […] and degrade interoperability of the alliance.”

After a meeting in Washington with U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo earlier this month, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu expressed confidence that the United States would not only deliver the first F-35 to Turkey as planned, but that it would ultimately decide to continue F-35 sales to Turkey.

“Turkey rejects threatening language from the U.S. on the issue, it is not constructive,” Çavuşoğlu said on June 4, according to
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Turkey plans to buy 100 F-35As. As a partner of the program, its domestic defense industry helps build the Joint Strike Fighter. Most notably, Turkish Aerospace Industries’ serves as a manufacturer of the aircraft’s center fuselage. It has also been chosen as a sustainment hub for the international F-35 community.
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Jun 6, 2018
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as I said, it's all about Lockheed Martin (
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dtulsa

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It really boils down to the U.S. and NATO haven't seen a peer versus peer conflict since WWII therefore we get bored with what works and move on to the next new expensive toy ie. The 35,Ford ,Zumwalt, LCS and a host of other pretty looking stuff that promise all sorts of "new" capability but fail to deliver any thing but more Money to the defense contractors
 
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dtulsa said:
It really boils down to the U.S. and NATO haven't seen a peer versus peer conflict since WWII therefore we get bored with what works and move on to the next new expensive toy ie. The 35,Ford ,Zumwalt, LCS and a host of other pretty looking stuff that promise all sorts of "new" capability but fail to deliver any thing but more Money to the defense contractors
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I'm guessing you'll like
F-35′s X-Ray Vision System Is Getting An Upgrade, But Will It Actually Save Money?
June 13, 2018
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a long one, ending with ... who cares anyway
 
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Yesterday at 8:13 PM
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very interesting part of
Raytheon snags F-35 system business previously held by Northrop
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Northrop chose not to bid for future DAS production after deciding that it was no longer an attractive business opportunity, said Kathy Warden, the company’s president and chief operating officer, in an April earnings call.

On Wednesday, Northrop spokesman Brian Humphreys elaborated, saying that the company “applied the same disciplined approach we use when considering all business pursuits and concluded that it wasn’t the right business deal for us.”
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related, sounding as a LockMart ad, is the DefenseOne story with the link
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When I went to
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at Lockheed Martin’s factory in Fort Worth a few years ago, folks there spent a good amount of time talking about how dozens of small projects could shave millions of dollars from the jet’s price tag in the coming years. Dubbed the “
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,” these efforts relied largely on new manufacturing techniques or creating more competition among parts suppliers. Lockheed said the trims could save up to $4 billion if sales go as planned.

But the company made a move this week that could shave even more off the cost: it will stop buying a sensor system from Northrop Grumman, and switch to what it calls a better, cheaper, more reliable system from Raytheon. In all, the shift,
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, will generate “more than $3 billion in life cycle cost savings.”

Northrop
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its Distributed Aperture System as “the only 360-degree, spherical situational awareness system.” Cameras mounted on the jet allow a pilot wearing a special helmet to effectively see through the plane.

Here’s why this move matters: It shows Lockheed is not afraid to drop big-name suppliers, at least when the pain is not too bad. (Northrop still has lots of F-35 work; it builds the jet’s fuselage, radar, and other mission systems.) Lockheed said the competing Raytheon systems offers “5 times more reliability” and “2 times performance capability improvement.”

“The supply chain competition for the next generation F-35 Distributed Aperture System resulted in significant cost savings, reliability and performance improvements,” Greg Ulmer, Lockheed’s F-35 program manager, said in a
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. “We are aggressively pursuing cost reduction across the F-35 enterprise and this initiative is a clear demonstration of our unrelenting commitment to reduce costs and deliver transformational capabilities for the warfighter.”

The first operational F-35 equipped with the new Raytheon system is slated for delivery in 2023. Under currently plans, that means more than 900 F-35s will have the Northrop camera system. (Lockheed
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this week that it has delivered the 300th aircraft). One wonders: what is the cost to the military to support two different F-35 sensor configurations, and how much would it cost to retrofit existing jets?

The Pentagon has
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from Lockheed. It appears the company is taking action.
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