F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

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dtulsa

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icbeodragon said:
That's not what she's saying at all... its in the article.


This doesn't speak to a change in the structure of the aircraft.
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Didn't say they would change the structure maybe just modify it a bit here and the one example raise the cockpit level to improve pilot visibility or add an extension to the fuselage for more weapons or fuel or add an engine increase in one model while the other ones use the F135 just some of the examples one big example add an internal gun to the navy and marines model don't seem they have learned that lesson yet
 
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dtulsa

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dtulsa said:
Didn't say they would change the structure maybe just modify it a bit here and the one example raise the cockpit level to improve pilot visibility or add an extension to the fuselage for more weapons or fuel or add an engine increase in one model while the other ones use the F135 just some of the examples one big example add an internal gun to the navy and marines model don't seem they have learned that lesson yet
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Another example would be a software change that would allow a different weapon say in the Air Force model that the Navy didn' use just a few examples of service differences one service may want a better dogfighter while the other may want a better strike aircraft these could be accmplished in some cases with software changes
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

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dtulsa said:
Having said that there very well could be a F35 D,E and F model emerge
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First There most Definitely will be F35D,F35E and F35F Which will include newer engines upgraded systems and weapons.
but those are not what this is about I think.
now just like all of the models before it in other words the services won't be bound to just one model you could see a dedicated ground attack bird for the Marines a dedicated strike aircraft model for the navy and a multirole aircraft for the air force with the emphasis on air suppierorty all Could share common parts where possible and software also
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I think you have missed a major factor here.
The Marines don't want a dedicated Air to ground bird. They want a multirole bird. if you look at there air load out the only dedicated CAS bird they have is the AH1Z, Otherwise the vast majority are F/A18 C-D and AV8B are intended to flex between Air to air and Air to ground.
The Navy wants Multirole
The USAF wants Multirole, The plane The F35A is replacing is not a dedicated Air superiority bird, it's a multi role fighter the F16. The Dedicated Air to Air birds the F15 and The F22.
Where you might see more flex coming in here is That the Airforce and Navy don't always buy the same weapons. The Marines want a Pure fleet of Fast Fixed wing to replace all there birds save perhaps the F5. Among those birds the EA6 which has been slowly phasing out. but the Marines unlike the Navy are not buying Growlers so they might want a new EW bird.
The Air force might also want one.
 
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dtulsa

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
First There most Definitely will be F35D,F35E and F35F Which will include newer engines upgraded systems and weapons.
but those are not what this is about I think.

I think you have missed a major factor here.
The Marines don't want a dedicated Air to ground bird. They want a multirole bird. if you look at there air load out the only dedicated CAS bird they have is the AH1Z, Otherwise the vast majority are F/A18 C-D and AV8B are intended to flex between Air to air and Air to ground.
The Navy wants Multirole
The USAF wants Multirole, The plane The F35A is replacing is not a dedicated Air superiority bird, it's a multi role fighter the F16. The Dedicated Air to Air birds the F15 and The F22.
Where you might see more flex coming in here is That the Airforce and Navy don't always buy the same weapons. The Marines want a Pure fleet of Fast Fixed wing to replace all there birds save perhaps the F5. Among those birds the EA6 which has been slowly phasing out. but the Marines unlike the Navy are not buying Growlers so they might want a new EW bird.
The Air force might also want one.
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That is what I was saying just thinking of the 8deas out loud and you can never tell what they will want or need say 10 or 20 years down the road I don' even know what I want next week maybe this gives all the services the freedom to develop them to suit their own wants and needs is all
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

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F35 was designed to be a step up from the existing multirole systems. These 3 versions are tailored to meet the specialized take off and landing needs of the services. but maintain a degree of Commonality to allow ease of logistics and Training.
Where I think This is more going is allowing the services to expand there picks of weapons and accessories.
I mean right now the F35 can't use the APKWS despite the fact that the AV8B, and F16 use it as are planed for use on the F/A18C-D 3 of the Aircraft targeted to be replaced by the F35.
 
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Jura The idiot

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
... These 3 versions are tailored to meet the specialized take off and landing needs of the services. but maintain a degree of Commonality to allow ease of logistics and Training.
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ooh la la commonality sales talk LOL even The National Interest dropped this already May 4, 2016
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It's funny because some critics claim that F35A and C suffer due to commonality with the B. yet reality is That as the design evolved these are more and more already 3 different fighters.
The A model changed the least.
The B model needed weight reduction because of the VTOL
The C model needed a bit more work for the Carrier landings.
 
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dtulsa

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
It's funny because some critics claim that F35A and C suffer due to commonality with the B. yet reality is That as the design evolved these are more and more already 3 different fighters.
The A model changed the least.
The B model needed weight reduction because of the VTOL
The C model needed a bit more work for the Carrier landings.
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And they aren't done yet if anyone of us lives to see this bird through it' entire service life they probably won' even look like what you see now not even close
 
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