F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

Air Force Brat

Air Force Brat

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Jura said:
OK (LOL) and how do you explain the payload of 22k pounds? what did I miss Yesterday at 9:36 PM
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bad math! look, everybody shows capability, in my old Encyclopedia Brittanica, there was a great picture of a G-91 with all kinds of krap piled up around it, I was and am still very impressed...

The F-35 is a lifting, hauling fool, you hang in on, it will haul it,, that's amazing! but if you want to "nit-pik"?? Well you get to go stand in the corner with the "nay sayers",, there are only two lines,, PRO or CON?? I guess you'll be drinking your "evil Brew" with the CON's in the corner??? and I'll be enjoying my strong coffee with a little "Bailey's" for anti-freeze, here on the fronzen tundra, with all the "Kool Kids" who love the F-35??

but hey, all this negativity makes me look like Joe PRO!
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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Air Force Brat said:
bad math! look, everybody shows capability, in my old Encyclopedia Brittanica, there was a great picture of a G-91 with all kinds of krap piled up around it, I was and am still very impressed...

The F-35 is a lifting, hauling fool, you hang in on, it will haul it,, that's amazing! but if you want to "nit-pik"?? Well you get to go stand in the corner with the "nay sayers",, there are only two lines,, PRO or CON?? I guess you'll be drinking your "evil Brew" with the CON's in the corner??? and I'll be enjoying my strong coffee with a little "Bailey's" for anti-freeze, here on the fronzen tundra, with all the "Kool Kids" who love the F-35??

but hey, all this negativity makes me look like Joe PRO!
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hey, is my Today at 2:01 PM fanart visible:
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Air Force Brat

Air Force Brat

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FORBIN said:
I can't check all variants Budd... and posted a book ;) but fact is in 2030's F-35A are about 1750 on almost 2000 fighters with F-22 so especialy for police sky USAF need a bird with a gun... all civil aircrafts suspect are intercepted with eventual warning shots... it is not a ennemy fighter with 1 driver... this duty is essentialy the job of the ANG Active also but mainly disponible for deployments or war remains Reserve but she have only 3 F-16 Sqns
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Actually Terran, the USAF did NOT get an internal cannon until the E model, and they were NEVER happy with the F-4, in Viet-Nam the A-7E Corsair II was the turning, burning little fool, and did indeed dish it out to the Migs, the Navy and maybe even the Marines, also flew the A-7 and did very well with it.. Early Air to Air missiles were very disappointing, lots of "show and blow" off the wing, but not "hard kills"..

The USAF did indeed insist on an internal gun in the F-15, F-16, A-10 (actually an airplane built around a cannon!), F-22, and now the only one of three F-35 variants to have a cannon is the Air Force A model...Gunslinger's need a gun, the United States Air Force has been very firm, and very insistent since they got "saddled" with the F-4 by the "beloved, Robert McNamara??? The F-4 was a big honking, fast hauler,and a long range BVR Interceptor, it was NEVER intended to be a turning, burning gunfighter, those external guns were very cumbersome and draggy, and required frequent bore sighting to even remain close to point of aim, not to mention on, the gunsight did NOT take "lead" into the targeting solution, so NO, they weren't very effective..

The F-15 changed ALL that up,, the Navy got the F-14, an aircraft that looked and looks very kool, but lots of initial problems, engines, stall and spin incidents,prohibited from pulling any Gs and conducting ACM training when introduced to the fleet and a real maintenance nightmare,, Boeing on the other hand is "STILL" manufacturing F-15s for very happy "upscale" customers!

but Forbin, the Gun is there to "kill", its not for show and threats,, and I can assure you that USAF are killing everybody, and everything with the F-22 and F-35A...

so I'm sure the Air Force and the Marines are on the same page on lots of levels, and No doubt the Air Force and Navy need two different airplanes for very divergent missions? actually there are 3 very distinct versions of the F-35, and everbody has the bird they say they need!
 
FORBIN

FORBIN

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Air Force Brat said:
Yes Sir, and very nice indeed!
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Air Force Brat said:
Actually Terran, the USAF did NOT get an internal cannon until the E model, and they were NEVER happy with the F-4, in Viet-Nam the A-7E Corsair II was the turning, burning little fool, and did indeed dish it out to the Migs, the Navy and maybe even the Marines, also flew the A-7 and did very well with it.. Early Air to Air missiles were very disappointing, lots of "show and blow" off the wing, but not "hard kills"..

The USAF did indeed insist on an internal gun in the F-15, F-16, A-10 (actually an airplane built around a cannon!), F-22, and now the only one of three F-35 variants to have a cannon is the Air Force A model...Gunslinger's need a gun, the United States Air Force has been very firm, and very insistent since they got "saddled" with the F-4 by the "beloved, Robert McNamara??? The F-4 was a big honking, fast hauler,and a long range BVR Interceptor, it was NEVER intended to be a turning, burning gunfighter, those external guns were very cumbersome and draggy, and required frequent bore sighting to even remain close to point of aim, not to mention on, the gunsight did NOT take "lead" into the targeting solution, so NO, they weren't very effective..

The F-15 changed ALL that up,, the Navy got the F-14, an aircraft that looked and looks very kool, but lots of initial problems, engines, stall and spin incidents,prohibited from pulling any Gs and conducting ACM training when introduced to the fleet and a real maintenance nightmare,, Boeing on the other hand is "STILL" manufacturing F-15s for very happy "upscale" customers!

but Forbin, the Gun is there to "kill", its not for show and threats,, and I can assure you that USAF are killing everybody, and everything with the F-22 and F-35A...

so I'm sure the Air Force and the Marines are on the same page on lots of levels, and No doubt the Air Force and Navy need two different airplanes for very divergent missions? actually there are 3 very distinct versions of the F-35, and everbody has the bird they say they need!
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In your 6 you means ... but in the grapphic it is the true load :mad:

Budd all is interesting and i have see followed all it... in my French mags/Books with ofc NATO désignations hehe :) but not Vietnam LOL i start in 1980's with all the stuff and large Cold War Games :cool: but a new have begin ;) but always in same side

Would be nice but seems impossible a more big variant to replace F-15E ( i have see one idea ) in fact your new FB-22 :p

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FORBIN

FORBIN

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Air Force Brat said:
Actually Terran, the USAF did NOT get an internal cannon until the E model, and they were NEVER happy with the F-4, in Viet-Nam the A-7E Corsair II was the turning, burning little fool, and did indeed dish it out to the Migs, the Navy and maybe even the Marines, also flew the A-7 and did very well with it.. Early Air to Air missiles were very disappointing, lots of "show and blow" off the wing, but not "hard kills"..

The USAF did indeed insist on an internal gun in the F-15, F-16, A-10 (actually an airplane built around a cannon!), F-22, and now the only one of three F-35 variants to have a cannon is the Air Force A model...Gunslinger's need a gun, the United States Air Force has been very firm, and very insistent since they got "saddled" with the F-4 by the "beloved, Robert McNamara??? The F-4 was a big honking, fast hauler,and a long range BVR Interceptor, it was NEVER intended to be a turning, burning gunfighter, those external guns were very cumbersome and draggy, and required frequent bore sighting to even remain close to point of aim, not to mention on, the gunsight did NOT take "lead" into the targeting solution, so NO, they weren't very effective..

The F-15 changed ALL that up,, the Navy got the F-14, an aircraft that looked and looks very kool, but lots of initial problems, engines, stall and spin incidents,prohibited from pulling any Gs and conducting ACM training when introduced to the fleet and a real maintenance nightmare,, Boeing on the other hand is "STILL" manufacturing F-15s for very happy "upscale" customers!

but Forbin, the Gun is there to "kill", its not for show and threats,, and I can assure you that USAF are killing everybody, and everything with the F-22 and F-35A...

so I'm sure the Air Force and the Marines are on the same page on lots of levels, and No doubt the Air Force and Navy need two different airplanes for very divergent missions? actually there are 3 very distinct versions of the F-35, and everbody has the bird they say they need!
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Again me :) and happy new Year for others also but for fully enjoy the benefits of the DAOS ideal a laser in a turret :mad: :D can't targeted on 360° but not far surely possible on 240°
coz with actual weapons angle is much more limited guns max 60° ? and IR AAMs ( for short game i talk ) 120° about ? ;)
 
FORBIN

FORBIN

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datas used by English Wiki since yet few months we can trust ?
Before and still same datas with inferior number in other language but normaly US birds so English Wiki more reliable
I precise initial datas of about 2010 was revised and decreased by about 10% so in this case if new numbers are good F-35 win again approxm. these range lost... Smileys perplexe.PNG

CR for all

These datas seems too much ! do
F-35A 690 nmi (1277 km)
F-35B 550 nmi (1018 km)
F-35C 730 nmi (1350 km)

Before datas used and right now reliable datas
F-35A 583 nmi ( 1080 km )
F-35B 583 nmi ( 833 km )
F-35C 600 nmi ( 1111 km ) i have also 1130 km
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Here* revised reliable ?
F-35A 669 nmi (1,239 km)
F-35B 505 nmi (935 km)
F-35C 640 nmi (1,185 km)
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F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) Program (F-35)
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For comparison all fighters have CRs between 500 - ~1700 km US 700 - 1500 km F-15C with FTs and light AAMs

If one have more o_O
 
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