F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

Air Force Brat

Air Force Brat

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
Brat you Forgot the original UFO, The Flying Illuminati Pyramid the F117.
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Correct, I did leave it out, because technically the Aliens themselves built the F-117's, the real reason their atmospheric performance is so poor, however they are outstanding in the cold dark reaches of space!

The F-22 on the other hand is optimized for earth's atmosphere and gravitational pull, however, it's still the "Alien Bird" with new shaping to optimize its atmospheric performance,,, it is however a little off the mark of the F-117 in deep space, but only a little!

Keep the Secret Gentlemen! I wouldn't want the Aliens seeking retribution because you "talked".
 
Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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Air Force Brat said:
One clear, One tinted very dark, sunglasses eh what! LOL
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I know this...when I met the pilots who flew the bird into Mountain Home AFB two years ago, they were extatic abotu their new bird.

They loved it and said althjough they could not go into details, that theaircraft could and would do amazing things.

From friends who are working with the USMC and US Navy birds...they all say the same thing.

Fact is, even with the concurrent testing, the US is producing hundreds of these 5th generation, senor fused, stealth strike aircraft...and all of our allies ar getting their hands on them now too and indicating the same.

...and, the cost is coming way down compared to five years ago when the nay-sayers indiated that the ost would be the death fo the bird.

Well...it has not.

Potential opponents are concerned...and they should be. There will be thousands of these birds built.

Now, that does not mean that there are not hurdles and issues to address. There are. But that is true with any new program...and particularly any new program that pushes the envelope the way the F-35 does.

Same goes with the Zumwalt and the Ford...the lasers...the rail guns...etc., etc.

The US is still pushing the envelope all around...and when you do that...you face difficulties precisely because no one has done it before and you are cutting new ground.
 
Air Force Brat

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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Jeff Head said:
I know this...when I met the pilots who flew the bird into Mountain Home AFB two years ago, they were extatic abotu their new bird.

They loved it and said althjough they could not go into details, that theaircraft could and would do amazing things.

From friends who are working with the USMC and US Navy birds...they all say the same thing.

Fact is, even with the concurrent testing, the US is producing hundreds of these 5th generation, senor fused, stealth strike aircraft...and all of our allies ar getting their hands on them now too and indicating the same.

...and, the cost is coming way down compared to five years ago when the nay-sayers indiated that the ost would be the death fo the bird.

Well...it has not.

Potential opponents are concerned...and they should be. There will be thousands of these birds built.

Now, that does not mean that there are not hurdles and issues to address. There are. But that is true with any new program...and particularly any new program that pushes the envelope the way the F-35 does.

Same goes with the Zumwalt and the Ford...the lasers...the rail guns...etc., etc.

The US is still pushing the envelope all around...and when you do that...you face difficulties precisely because no one has done it before and you are cutting new ground.
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Yeppers, if you want to build an "Alien Bird"? the secret sauce is hard work and tech savvy engineering, no it ain't cheap, and it ain't easy, and yes ain't is NOW a word ain't it?? LOL HEH!, Heh! HEH!, HEH!
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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Air Force Brat said:
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Lt. Gen. Bogdan for AirForceMag:
F-35 Price Will Start Rising Again in About 2022
The price of the F-35A—the Air Force version—will drop below $79 million within the next three years, but just a few years later, it will start going up again, outgoing program director Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan said in an exit interview with Air Force Magazine.

The price of the F-35 has come down, lot after lot, for five years. The $79 million price—in 2020 dollars—includes an engine and program fee, he said, and is for the “baseline” jet equipped with the 3F software, sensor, and weapons suite. However, “there’s a caveat” with that number, Bogdan noted. That price is “based on a particular ramp rate and quantity profile,” and if the production rate of the F-35 is slowed, the $79 million figure will “take longer” to get to.

“Every time you take airplanes out,” it will delay the most efficient rate, he said. Looking ahead, though, as a series of substantive upgrades begin to appear in production, “they’re going to cause the airplane to cost more,” he acknowledged.

A 2020 airplane, he said, lacks the “follow-on modernization and enhancements that will come in the 2022-2028 timeframe, and those enhancements are going to cost money.

The Block IV upgrade program, now being mapped out, will enhance every aspect of the F-35, Bogdan said. “We will put many more weapons on this airplane; both weapons we know of and future weapons to make the airplane more lethal.” From flight test and early operational use, Bogdan said “we’ve found out … this airplane has such a tremendous sensor capability, that now we have to make sure that the weapons that go with all that sensor capability can use it,” but he declined to elaborate further.

“I guarantee” the F135 engine will be upgraded, Bogdan said, either with a range of new components or replaced by a whole new engine based on technology programs now coming to fruition through an Air Force Research Laboratory propulsion programs. Whether all-new or “significantly modified,” Bogdan said “that’ll be a decision we have to make in the future.”

Either way, there will be substantial increases in “efficiency, thrust, range and reliability,” he said. The AFRL has touted improvements in range of as much as 30 percent with the next generation of fighter engines.

Bogdan also said, “There are some sensors on the airplane that will be replaced or improved in the future, as they get better.” Further, “one of the things that I’m sure is right for the F-35 is new electronic warfare techniques, and things that make the airplane more adaptive to the environment it’s in instead of maybe having to go back and reprogram” it. The jet will be able to “see new threats and react to them, even though the airplane might not have expected to see that threat, initially.”

The F-35 today relies on a vast store of mission data files, constantly updated, which catalog all the potential threats—fixed and mobile—in a given geographic area.

“We’ll never be done upgrading ALIS,” the Autonomic Logistics Information System, Bogdan said. “We’ll look for different, architectural changes in the future [and] we may go to a ‘cloud’ someday. We’ll definitely look for remote administration,” which would be a kind of centralized ALIS operations center that would relieve “guys at the squadron level” of administrative tasks, such as keeping ALIS running and making software patches.
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Jeff Head

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Lt. Gen. Bogdan for AirForceMag:
F-35 Price Will Start Rising Again in About 2022
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Still...$79 million WITH the engine and at baseline!

That is pretty amazing.

Even if it rises to $85-90 million that is one heck of a deal for a 5th gen strike bird like her.

They are going to sell a boat load of them.
 
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