F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

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Jura said:
that's what you say now but a quick google search shows for example

Singapore expected to order F-35 fighter jets soon - sources Mar 14, 2013
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the hype surrounding F-35 is just incredible ... time will tell
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"Singapore remains interested in the F-35 joint strike fighter, but does not expect to procure the fifth-generation jet until the 2030 timeframe, Defense Minister Ng Eng Hen said Sept. 30. "
 
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"Singapore remains interested in the F-35 joint strike fighter, but does not expect to procure the fifth-generation jet until the 2030 timeframe, Defense Minister Ng Eng Hen said Sept. 30. "
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I beg your pardon, you either didn't go two posts back:
Yesterday at 10:40 PM
Jura said:
according to DefenseNews Singapore Eyes F-35 for 2030 Time Frame

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or ... quoted me to make my point for me? LOL
 
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shen said:
I'm confused why you would post an earlier article that contradicts the more recent article you posted.
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first, Singapore hasn't ordered any F-35s so both articles I most recently posted in this thread contain just hype like "does expect to procure" very soon SLASH later which to me has only entertaining value :) in other words, both articles babble about what is NOT known for sure (and is subject to change based on financial/political/military situation, new data on the performance of the project, etc.)

second, despite both articles babble, they're still interesting for me during
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as was the case in the series:

Monday at 10:40 PM
Jura said:
according to DefenseNews Singapore Eyes F-35 for 2030 Time Frame

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Yesterday at 1:12 PM
FORBIN said:
Singapore don' t need now all is new or almost as Dow Under for soon.
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Yesterday at 6:05 PM
Jura said:
that's what you say now but a quick google search shows for example

Singapore expected to order F-35 fighter jets soon - sources Mar 14, 2013
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the hype surrounding F-35 is just incredible ... time will tell
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see? something I do to entertain myself (not sure about others :)

now you might understand my reaction
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/f-...os-and-pics-thread.t5796/page-391#post-418394
to your post
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/f-...os-and-pics-thread.t5796/page-391#post-418392
but I'm not going to go on with this conversation (it's Sticky Thread!), and you may have the last word here
 
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according to DefenseNews Top Air Force General: Recent F-35 Troubles Not Long-Term Problem
The F-35 program has had a rough couple weeks, including a ground fire during training and a supply issue that led the US Air Force to suspend flight operations for 15 F-35As. But the service’s top general said he is not worried that the recent problems could impact the future of the program.

"I would have concerns if I didn't feel like we had the right folks or the right plan,” Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein said Tuesday after a panel at the Association of the US Army conference. “But I think because I think we have both of those in place, I'm very confident that we're going to be getting this fixed."

On Sept. 16, the Air Force announced that it had paused flight operations for 15 F-35As that were found to have faulty coolant line insulation, which had started — in some cases — to begin peeling. The service was worried that debris in the fuel tank could lead to a change in pressure, causing structural damage. A total of 42 other jets in various stages of production were found to have the same problem.

About a week later The F-35 joint program office rolled out a retrofit plan for those jets, which involves cutting into the wings and removing the insulation from around the coolant lines and inside the fuel tank. Goldfein said that he had a direct window into potential fixes and is “comfortable” with the repair strategy.

“They come to me with solutions and I look at exactly what they're looking at and options that are available,” he said. “I think we have a good sense of what likely was going on with that insulation. They're going through the fix right now.

“They’ve actually gone through and fixed several. They've given me the schedule. I've looked at it. I'm comfortable with it. We should be complete by December."

Meanwhile, the service is still investigating a Sept. 23 incident where an F-35A burst into flames before takeoff during an exercise at Mountain Home Air Force Base, Idaho. According to the service, “the pilot had to egress the aircraft during engine start due to a fire from the aft section of the aircraft,” and the fire was extinguished. Although the jet was damaged, the pilot emerged safely and no other aircraft were grounded as a result of the event.

Goldfein said it was still too early to determine the root cause of the fire.

“What we normally do after all of these things is we put an investigation team on it right away,” he said. “They leave no stone unturned. Then we get to the bottom of exactly what happened, and then once we have that, then we put all the fixes in place and we're in that process right now."
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I've read theoretically partners could come up with a block buy, if the US didn't at the expected time (which is the end of 2018, right?) ... but I'm not predicting or conjuring anything, am just saying what I've read; anyway
Norway Wants 12 More F-35s, Plans Block Buy In 2019
Norway this week became the first of the
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international partner nations to make public its intent to participate in a proposed multiyear, multinational “block buy,” unveiling a budget request for 2017 that includes 12 additional
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fighter jets over the next few years.

In the Norwegian government’s 2017 budget proposal, rolled out Oct. 6, the Norwegian government requested authorization to order 12 more
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in 2019 and 2020, including six in Low-Rate Initial Production (LRIP) lot 13 and another six in LRIP 14, Norwegian ministry of defense spokesman Endre Lunde tells Aviation Week. If OK’d, this would bring Norway’s number of approved F-35s to 40.

This blueprint would allow Norway to participate in the second and third years of the proposed international block buy, beginning in 2019 and covering lots 13 and 14. The government estimates the block buy will yield 385 million Norwegian Krone in savings, or about $48 million, Lunde says.

Under the block buy plan, U.S. and international export orders for three years – 2018 through 2020, covering LRIPs 12 through 14 – would be bundled together in a single contract as a way to generate savings for all the F-35 customers. The partners have been considering such a block buy for a number of years, but so far only the U.S. has announced its intent to participate. Joint Program Office Chief Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan estimates the joint buy would cover about 450 aircraft over three years and save more than $2 billion.

The U.S. expects to join the block buy, in lot 13, Bogdan said last month at the Air Force Association’s annual air and space conference. He anticipates that plan will be rolled out early next year along with President Barack Obama’s fiscal 2018 budget request.

Under the 2017 budget plan, Norway would enter the block buy at the same time as the U.S. The Norwegian government considered joining the buy at its start in 2018, but found that any additional savings would be offset by the need to make adjustments to domestic planning processes already well underway, Lunde says.

“On balance, our decision was that 13 and 14 was the better option,” he says.

All of the partners that are buying F-35s in lot 12 are on board with the block buy, Bogdan says. Aside from the U.S. and Norway, the other partner countries are Australia, Canada, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey and the United Kingdom.

“I know I have support from many of my partners to want to start in [LRIP] 12,” Bogdan says, though adding “not all of them are buying airplanes in lot 12, so they don’t have to make a choice yet.”

However, the other partner nations have been silent on any concrete plans for the block buy, and none have signaled their intent to participate in the first year.

Air Vice Marshall Leigh Gordon, Australia’s Joint Strike Fighter program chief, says his country is “very interested” in the block buy, but officials have some time before they need to make a final decision.

“Australia has 45 aircraft across the years that are being considered for the block buy, so we’re very interested,” Gordon said Oct. 6 during an event in Washington. “We don’t have to sign up to it quite yet but we’re working through the process, and to me it seems to be the smart thing to do.”

Mark Butler, assistant head of the UK ministry of defense’s international relations group, who also spoke during the event, declined to comment on the block buy.

Meanwhile, Canada is the big question mark. Ottawa had previously selected the F-35A to replace its aging
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Hornets, but Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s newly elected liberal government chose to review the F-35’s selection over concerns about the fighter jet’s cost. The Canadian government spent the summer consulting with the five major fighter manufacturers, and is currently analyzing that data, according to Lisa Campbell, Canada’s assistant deputy minister for military acquisitions, public services and procurement.

“We got a lot of great information, we’re analyzing it all now and giving advice to government, and we expect that there will be a decision soon,” Campbell says.

Overall, Norway has committed to buying up to 52 F-35 fighter jets over the next decade. The country is currently using its first four F-35As for pilot training at Luke AFB, Arizona, and is slated to receive six additional jets next year. Three of those aircraft will make the trans-Atlantic journey to Norway at the end of next year, touching down in their home country for the first time. The additional aircraft proposed for lots 13 and 14 would be delivered in 2021 and 2022.

The Norwegian F-35s will reach initial operational capability in 2019, and full operational capability in 2025.
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Jura said:
I've read theoretically partners could come up with a block buy, if the US didn't at the expected time (which is the end of 2018, right?) ... but I'm not predicting or conjuring anything, am just saying what I've read; anyway
Norway Wants 12 More F-35s, Plans Block Buy In 2019

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A very smart decision, no doubt prodded on by Vladimir Putin, Lockheed Aircrafts "Salesman of the Year"!

I'd love to see the size of his "commission check"???
 
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Jura said:
I've read theoretically partners could come up with a block buy, if the US didn't at the expected time (which is the end of 2018, right?) ... but I'm not predicting or conjuring anything, am just saying what I've read; anyway
Norway Wants 12 More F-35s, Plans Block Buy In 2019

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Yet only country to have increase her orders from 48 to 52 for replaced 57 F-16 in 3 Sqns, so 12 in more is a huge ratio ! remains surprising very surprising, questionnable wit energy price...

But the drag chute not usefull essential on slippery tracks ... :eek:

More seriously an expenditure but can save some fighters, curious to know if USAF have plans for use it with her F-35A based to Eielson later or different conditions ? F-22 have ?
 
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