F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

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Jeff Head said:
Yes it most certainly will!

And with the UK still talking about a total of 138 birds or something close to it, they will have the second largest contingent.

Though Turkey and Australia are both talking about 100 birds for each of them.

I expect we will see a few more countries end up coming close to that mark, and would not be surprised to see those three countries ultimately buy more.
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Yes, and they are getting an outstanding airplane, that as Admiral Walsh stated it will do so many different missions and open up lots of airspace for our Navy!
 
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wow For F-35’s First Deployment, Marines Plan ‘School of Hard Knocks’
Real-world missions will help the Corps chart its future with the plane, says the leader of the Marines’ Combat Development Command.

The F-35’s first deployment next year will help the Marine Corps discover what still needs fixing with the new fifth-generation jet, and where to go in the future, Marine Lt. Gen. Robert Walsh told reporters Tuesday.

Not only will the Marines be the first force to deploy the Lockheed Martin jet in an operational context—aboard the USS Wasp next year—it will deploy a second contingent soon after, this one aboard the USS Essex.

“We will learn from that, and see what capabilities we need to further develop,” said Walsh, the commanding general of the Marines’ Combat Development Command. “A lot of it’s going to be the school of hard knocks.”

The Marines will begin moving 16 F-35Bs to Iwakuni Air Station in Japan early next year. The jets will deploy as part of Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121 in early 2017, a Marine spokeswoman said. At year’s end, six of that squadron’s planes will attach to the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit.

In the 31st MEU, VMFA-121 will link up with the Third Battalion, Fifth Marines, a regiment charged with being the “experimental force” of the Marines for its two years in the expeditionary force, Walsh said. It’s an apt pairing, given that the F-35’s first deployment will be a testing field for the plane’s capabilities—and numerous issues with
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About eight months after the F-35 starts proving itself in Japan aboard the Wasp, supporting Pacific-area exercises, a southern California MEU will deploy with the plane under Central Command.

“We’re getting ready to do more F-35 integration: Essex will go in and it will get those mods, and it will come out and be ready for deployment, I think, probably eight months or so after Wasp,” Walsh said. “And we’ll just continue to modify our big-deck amphibs to be able to take F-35s.”

The Marines, as it happens, would have preferred to let the Air Force or Navy work out the kinks in the new aircraft, Walsh said. But the Air Force
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this month. In any case, he said the Corps is excited to start putting the plane aboard its amphibious assault ships.

“The Marine Corps has been out in front with the F-35B,” Walsh said. “It’s probably not the way we would have wanted it,” but “we want to exploit fifth generation. … We’ve been after this a long time.”
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Jura said:
Jeff seems you missed it
Yesterday at 5:18 PM
just saying :)
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Yes...the Wasp to Japan and the Essex to the Middle East.

Undoubtedly, the F-35Bs off of the Essex may be deployed into combat operations against ISIS the way the Harriers are doing now.

This will be a great exercise...and ;ike I say, many eyes will be watching to see how they do.

The Royal Navy certainly...but also people like Turkey, Korea, and Japan who are considering the F-35B for their own jump jet carriers.
 
TerraN_EmpirE

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Air Force Brat said:
All true, and yet I find it interesting that Lockheed purchased the lift fan technology from Yak, and the fan is driven by a drive shaft off of the main shaft??? Very innovative, gives you vertical thrust on both ends as opposed to the RR Pegasus, of the Harrier??
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Sorry Brat, But Wrong.
What Lockheed bought was not the lift fan. Lockheed had been experimenting with lift fans as far back as the 1960's With the XV-4 Hummingbird.
Yak Vtol aircraft used lift Jets The Yak 141 used three jet engines one main Soyuz R-79V-300 and two vertically mounted RKBM RD-41 engines, For lift the Soyuz's Nozzle swivels over 90* from horizontal to vertical via a system known as a 3 Bearing swivel duct well the 2 additional RKBM's Thrust These Form two main columns of Air which pushed the Yak 141 into the Air.
This is similar to what is used on the F35B. As F35B uses a Forward mounted Rolls Royce made Lift Fan ( that is to say a counter rotating ducked fan) mounted in the fuselage and slaved to the F135 engine to generate the forward columns of Air and the Exahust channeled though a Similar 3 bearing swivel for the rear.
However What Yak sold was not the Technology of the 3 Bearing swivel what it sold was the Performance Data of the Yak 141. Because Lockheed already had a 3 bearing swivel design.
WAIT WHAT??? you ask then where did the 3 bearing swivel come from?... I'll leave that for you to sweat on for a few well I cover a few other points.
While I have never been a big fan of the Harrier, it is at least very technologically interesting?? on the other hand the F-35B appears to bring practicality and performance up to a level of functionality that we have never seen, although I will confess the Marines have made good use of the Harriers capabilities, while not being "turned off" with its operational considerations.
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The F35B is a totally new ball game compared to the Harrier.
Jeff Head said:
Yes...Lockheed has taken some technology from others and coupled it with the stealth, lift, sensors, etc. that they have and brought it all together in the F-35B which will be a game changer for any nation that can get them on their ski-jump carriers.
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Here is where I drop my bomb shell. The F35B's 3 bearing swivel system was the product of... Convair In particular the Convair model 200 concept circa 1972convair_200_1.jpg
Since the model 200 was the Yak 141's performance data enabled Lockheed to double cheek the home work. Lockheed Bought the blue prints of the Model 200 when Convair later General Dynamics sold off it's aviation elements to Lockheed and MacDonald Douglas ( now Boeing). Ironically This changes the Claims of Earlier by making Yak the Clone. If you look at the art work I just posted It's Very close to the Yak 141...
That alone will force the Chinese to take a hard look at it whenever they get a chance.
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delft said:
Because it provided money in the early '90's. Lockheed bought an Antonov developed combination of welding and bonding, from the early 1950's and the production of An-2's, around 1970.
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The sale was more of a Charity action to keep Russian Aviation alive. as it was done After Lockheed had already installed the X35's Vtol system.
 
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TerraN_EmpirE said:
Here is where I drop my bomb shell. The F35B's 3 bearing swivel system was the product of... Convair In particular the Convair model 200 concept circa 1972View attachment 31512
Since the model 200 was the Yak 141's performance data enabled Lockheed to double cheek the home work. Lockheed Bought the blue prints of the Model 200 when Convair later General Dynamics sold off it's aviation elements to Lockheed and MacDonald Douglas ( now Boeing). Ironically This changes the Claims of Earlier by making Yak the Clone. If you look at the art work I just posted It's Very close to the Yak 141...
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YES! As I said on the What IF Aircraft Thread, I had forgotten all about the Convair VSTOL aircraft proposal back then.

And it makes perfect sense that LM would get that data from them.

Good dig!
 
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