ja, i've seen that movie. actually there are a couple movies, very limited, i don't think the number is over 10....about korean war. and most of them aren't about the war itself, but the people in it. MASH is funny, i once saw a cantoonese playing a chinese army officer giving the prisons back to the amercians, and he was like saying" you people bomb us day and night, we can't even sleep, and while we trading prisoners you still shoot at us". then in the next esp, he turned into a south korean doctor.........
Equipment used in Korea
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Wow you pay way too much attention....
Anyways, i know this is knd of off topic but can someone provide me an accurate number for the number of chinese casulties? (KIA,WIA,MIA) From looking at different sites, i've come to the number of around three hundred thousand to one million. (This is even said in the Ap.Us history text book) However, i did notice that in the text book the KIA of american forces numbered 50000, while the one million number was regarded as CASULTIES, so can someone please provide a accurate source of only the numbers of KIA as well?
BTW. The k98 was only two pounds lighter then the M1 Garand....not much of a difference......The advantage of the M1 Garand lies in its fast firing rate, its power and barrel length was shorter then the k98, dispite the k98 being much smaller.....
Did china get any of the Mauser k98 rifle gernades?
Anyways, i know this is knd of off topic but can someone provide me an accurate number for the number of chinese casulties? (KIA,WIA,MIA) From looking at different sites, i've come to the number of around three hundred thousand to one million. (This is even said in the Ap.Us history text book) However, i did notice that in the text book the KIA of american forces numbered 50000, while the one million number was regarded as CASULTIES, so can someone please provide a accurate source of only the numbers of KIA as well?
BTW. The k98 was only two pounds lighter then the M1 Garand....not much of a difference......The advantage of the M1 Garand lies in its fast firing rate, its power and barrel length was shorter then the k98, dispite the k98 being much smaller.....
Did china get any of the Mauser k98 rifle gernades?
simonov
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Well, actually its said the communits side casualties is 1 million. If they talk about Communis side its mean PVA (People Volunteer Army, China) and NKPA.
So same with Allied, the total Casualties is 1 million, with SK is the biggest share (almost 70%). And actually During War, the PVA always admitted that SK always make them trouble, not the American
So same with Allied, the total Casualties is 1 million, with SK is the biggest share (almost 70%). And actually During War, the PVA always admitted that SK always make them trouble, not the American
The Korean War: The West Confronts Communism 1950-1953 by Hickey, Michael
I did a research paper on the Korean air losses and stumbled on to this.
Acording to this, one of the main losses of men on both sides was actually due to the extreme weather conditions of the Korean winter during the first year. The PVA, aparently wanting a quick knockout blow at the UN forces, were unprepared for the harsh condition sof the Korean Winters, which was one of the most severe during the years. The same applied to UN war veterns who were expecting semi-europeon climits.
He also stated that one of the major flaws of PVA air tactics in Korea was the short leggedness of the mig15/17. Due to the fac that they mainly operated from the chinese side of the Yalu, the migs were unable to provide adiquate air support for the ground troops. Apparently a few il-2s were also used, although i havent seen any pictures....
I did a research paper on the Korean air losses and stumbled on to this.
Acording to this, one of the main losses of men on both sides was actually due to the extreme weather conditions of the Korean winter during the first year. The PVA, aparently wanting a quick knockout blow at the UN forces, were unprepared for the harsh condition sof the Korean Winters, which was one of the most severe during the years. The same applied to UN war veterns who were expecting semi-europeon climits.
He also stated that one of the major flaws of PVA air tactics in Korea was the short leggedness of the mig15/17. Due to the fac that they mainly operated from the chinese side of the Yalu, the migs were unable to provide adiquate air support for the ground troops. Apparently a few il-2s were also used, although i havent seen any pictures....
Kampfwagen
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(Sighs) I love google. An Il-2 stationed in Kimpo Circa 1950. Not sure if it is DPRKAF or if it is PLAAF.
I have heard that Russia loaned some of it's pilots to the PLA and DPRK to fly in MiG-15's. According to a documentary, the USAF pilots could tell the diffrence in flying skill. Of course, this is all subject to conjecture.
As far as what the Chinese used, they used WW2 Vintage rifles, SMG's and LMG's with some of the newer Russian equipment and vehicles. As well as the weapons they themselves used in WW2.
The Chinese 'Victory' is a bit disputed. Technicaly speaking, the war has not even ended yet, so no-one won. Which is why there is still a North and South Korea instead of a Chinese Peninsula or Communist Korea. However, the Chinese definately hit our nerve when it came to the conflict. We were woefuly unprepared for this kind of combat.
By the way, I happen to enjoy M.A.S.H. One of my faveorite episodes was Rainbow Bridge, when Hawkeye, B.J and Burns had to help the Chinese soliders? I just love that bit where Burns pulls out the little peashooter and the PLA officer goes "What the hell is that?!" then laughs as he holds the little gun....ah...good times.
The theory of soviet airforce pilots flying mig-15's is more of a myth then fact. The only two bases that many pilots make of this assumption was that:
A) Some pilots showed signifigently more experience then others
B) The pilots "alledgely" saw caucasion features on the enamy pilots.
Of these two points you can see simply how rediculous point B is. Could it be possible that american pilots, when engaged in a duel of life and death, have the curiosity to peak at the cockpit of their opponets by closing in with <50m to the enemy plane and then taking a nice long look at his advasary? I personally don't think so. The soviets never actually admited to this theory and there were chinese pilots that rounded up more then five kills of american aircraft.
A) Some pilots showed signifigently more experience then others
B) The pilots "alledgely" saw caucasion features on the enamy pilots.
Of these two points you can see simply how rediculous point B is. Could it be possible that american pilots, when engaged in a duel of life and death, have the curiosity to peak at the cockpit of their opponets by closing in with <50m to the enemy plane and then taking a nice long look at his advasary? I personally don't think so. The soviets never actually admited to this theory and there were chinese pilots that rounded up more then five kills of american aircraft.
simonov
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Weel actually the Sovyet involved the. Their pilot. Under the Commander Ivan Kozhnezhdub. Sovyet top ace is Yevgeni Pepelyev,23 kills, PVa is Wang Hai, 9 kills and NK get 5 kills. All Sovyet pilot fly the NK designation MiG-15. They get order if they get catch they have to admitted as Chinese soldier from Xinjiang. They get instructed to speak Korean or Chinese in the air, but later they keep use their Russian lnguange. Some US pilot hear a russian comm in the air. no one Russian get catch or POW
Kampfwagen
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xihaoli said:
One thing I know about the Soviets is that they dont admit to alot of things, and still havent. It took them years to admit to the accidental sinking of the Kursk, even longer to admit about the Polish offical they murdered and even longer to admit a possible incident where they almost accidently lost controll of a nuclear missile aimed at the U.S. Who knows what secrets from the Soviet era the Russians have yet to admit to. Or what the U.S has yet to admit to from the Cold War.
And I remember that in the same documentary, they actualy interviewed a Soviet pilot that flew during the war.
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Getting back to the Chinese army...
did PVA eventually use armoured equipment? I heard that later on in the war, the PVA realized its lack of firepower, so set out in buying 20 divisions worth of Soviet equipment. In addition, did PVA eventually use T-34s in the Korean Penninsula? I know that North Korea had T-34s.
Did PVA also employ the use of captured US and Japanese vehicles acquired since 1945 in Korea?
did PVA eventually use armoured equipment? I heard that later on in the war, the PVA realized its lack of firepower, so set out in buying 20 divisions worth of Soviet equipment. In addition, did PVA eventually use T-34s in the Korean Penninsula? I know that North Korea had T-34s.
Did PVA also employ the use of captured US and Japanese vehicles acquired since 1945 in Korea?