Egypt gets licence to make China jets

tphuang

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never mind, I misread your previous post. There is nothing wrong with getting JL-9 right now, it's better than k-8. Who knows when JL-15 is even ready for production?

Edit: according to sinodefense, it is 2008-2010
 

chinawhite

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K-8s in egyptian production lines

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thanks to CC
 

chinawhite

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they have sold military equipment for years.

should kuwait there PLZ-45 SPA. they could have choose anyone in the world but choose to choose chinese.

sold saudi arabia SRBMs.
 

adeptitus

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The K-8 Karakorum is a low cost, mature technology with many export successes since 1989:
Pakistan - 39
Myanmar - 12
Sri Lanka - 6
Zambia - 8
Namibia - 4
Egypt - 40 + 80 K8E (local production)
Zimbabwe - 6

The JL-15 is a more advanced trainer, but not a mature/proven platform.

Egypt is still very much stuck in the numerical superiority mindset against its neighbors. Even with the addition of F-16A/B's (48), F-16C/D's (148+), and Mirage-2000EM's (20), they still want to keep the old F-6/Mig-19's (90), F-7/Mig-21's (~500), F-4E's (32), and Mirage V's (72) flying as long as possible:

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The Egyptian and Pakistani governments reportedly agreed in November 2000 on a major bilateral defense trade agreement which involved the refurbishment of Egyptian Air Force (EAF) aircraft in Pakistan in exchange for the supply of Egyptian F-16A/B spare parts to the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). The deal, which had been in preparation for some time, was reportedly finalized by Pakistan Chief Executive Gen. Pervez Musharraf and senior Egyptian officials at the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) summit in Doha on November 13-14, 2000. What was agreed, reportedly, included:

* The provision by Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) at Kamra, near Islamabad, of major overhauls and upgrades of some or all of the airframes and engines of the EAF's 13 Dassault Mirage 5 E2 tactical fighters; appr. 45 Dassault Mirage 5 SDE tactical fighters; less than 6 Dassault Mirage 5SDR tactical reconnaissance aircraft; and 5 Dassault Mirage 5 SDD operational trainers at the Mirage Rebuild Facility, which is part of PAC;
* The provision by PAC of major overhauls and upgrades of some or all of the airframes and engines of the EAF's appr. 45 Chengdu F-7B Fishbed tactical fighters at the F-6 Rebuild Facility, part of PAC. [Although called the F-6 Rebuild Facility, it undertakes major work on A-5, F-6 and F-7 types.] As well, similar work would be undertaken on some or all of the EAF's appr. 400 Mikoyan MiG-21PFS, MiG-21PFM and MiG-21MF Fishbed tactical fighters; appr. 10 Mikoyan MiG-21R Fishbed tactical reconnaissance aircraft; and appr.12 Mikoyan MiG-21UM/US Mongol operational trainers; as well as appr. 50 Shenyang F-6 Farmer tactical fighters; 5 Shenyang FT-6 Farmer operational trainers.
* The provision by Pakistan Ordnance Factories, at Wah Cantonment, near Islamabad, of a range of ordnance and munitions for the Egyptian Armed Forces;
* Other as-yet unidentified goods and services to be provided by Pakistan to the Egyptian Armed Forces;
* Provision by Egypt of spare parts for the PAF's appr. 35 F-16A/B fighters.

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One problem that the Egyptian AF has is that the primary source of military aid is from the US, so naturally the money would most likely have to be spent on US made weapons, such as the F-16. Unlike the French, the US is not likely to sell large supply of spares and munitions to Egypt.
 

Sczepan

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Egypt also could have no interests to be pressed by a embargo of US spare parts (for example: look to Venezuela) - so to be independence, they should look for other contractors and liczence production to;
the next export to Egypt (and licenc after some years) could be the FC-1/JF-17 MULTIROLE FIGHTER AIRCRAFT
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MIGleader

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africa and the middle east offer huge oppurtunities for china's future export market. china can produce decent quality goods cheaply, making weapons that appeal to poorer nations. the fc-1 and plz-45 are excellent starts. by 2020, china may have replaced russia in the export market.
 

MIGleader

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the US Britain, france, and germany had also submitted designs. im not sure about russia. the plz-45 won due its excellent performance and cheaper costs.
 

ger_mark

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pzh wasnt offered in 1997
the 1st systems came out 1998...
the main competitors were PLZ-45 and americas "newest hightech" weapon m109 Paladin
 
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