Distrubing cult in China

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AssassinsMace said:

Falun Gong is a cult but gets sympathy. That's the danger and why it's probably helps these cults under the guise of freedom of religion where they think they can be so bold. I've seen the video on Youtube and I just want all of the members of this cult to be shot on sight. They should get a taste of their own medicine. They're going kill someone because she didn't hand over her phone number. They should be executed just for existing.

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amen! Christian cults or muslim terrorists should be shot on sight. no objections with that from me but of course the west will make it into another ''china suppressing religious freedom'' anti china propaganda campaign. when the America fights terrorism they are fighting for freedom, if the Chinese do it then its a violation of human rights

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Even Matthew 7:15 warned us of false prophets, there's still plenty of people stupid enough to give them crooks a chance…

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MwRYum said:

What's disgust me most is that there's no lacking of such cultists and supporters in Hong Kong, which makes me more convinced that the sooner Beijing declare marshal law in HK and crack down on those morons hard, the better it'd be for all of us.

Hong Kong is full of cheats, crooks and charlatans, and because of all those "human rights" and "freedom of speech" obligations, they're allowed to fester.

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I'm more disgusted you'd actually advocate for iron-fist suppression of a society. That's just extremely disturbing.

And by no means do I sympathize or support cults. They are targets we all love to hate, and almost even politically correct targets to vent our sadism on, but with rational reminder I hope to re-entertain everyone that it's not in humanity's spirit for us to find ourselves "roaches" we can "stomp" on and vent out our most sadistic fantasizes in the name of "justice/righteous/moral high ground". Sure you can fantasize the goriest actions on hordes of millions of zombies and that's fine because they are dead bags of tissue, but here when we're still talking about perfectly alive human beings, you're actually dehumanizing living people. I am disgusted by what you've said and the ideas you advocate.

Finally I will say, even though I am from HK, I am perfectly aware of the amount of absurd subcultures that are blooming out in HK right now. And this I'm referring to all those irrational China bashing, China hating, racists, bigots, extremists, and what not. I hate them as much as I hate bigots of other camps, regardless of which affiliation, regardless of pro-Western or pro-China. However even then, when people like you advocate for iron-fist suppression and such dehumanizing statements, you are just as bad as them. I do not see you being any different from those people.

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MwRyum is saying it as a figure of speech to display his feelings of disgust at the lack of civility that some of these violent cults behavior just as you are doing as well in displaying your feelings.

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Equation said:

MwRyum is saying it as a figure of speech to display his feelings of disgust at the lack of civility that some of these violent cults behavior just as you are doing as well in displaying your feelings.

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Equation, I dislike those extremist groups he mentioned as much as I dislike those cults. However should our contempt or whichever attitudes justify insensitive statements? Hate is often veiled in the sense of other "reasons" to permit its existence or exposures. I am sorry, but this also isn't MwRyum's first time making such statements, and I don't feel hate should have a place in this forum where most of us earned our respect among others through respect, intellectualism, etc.

And if today the same statement was replaced as targeting China, would anyone actually come out and say he's just displaying his feelings of disgust?

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Those crooks are tolerated to exist here by common folks and even have an audience of sort, primary just out of spite against Beijing, not because we're more civilized or democratic or whatever, or those cultists are really some "beacon of humanity", as they'd have you believe in their BS.

Teenager mentality, really. Simply because it'd piss off "The Man"...

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MwRYum said:

Those crooks are tolerated to exist here by common folks and even have an audience of sort, primary simply out of spite against Beijing, not because we're more civilized or democratic or whatever.

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I know that. There are plenty of those groups, so-called activists, blahblahblah, acting all irrationally. I am very disappointed with Hong Kong these days, and I can go on for days on how they are. I don't even want to get started because it is depressing enough, and I will end up making a huge post talking about how bad things are. I resent all of what they do.

Too many of people there think they grasped the "true" understanding of certain social causes they are pursuing, but often they have only very limited understanding of the word, or actually act hypocritically. Anyway I'm done going OT

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I think a lot of the strong reactions in Hong Kong towards mainland China and Chinese these days is part of a fear of losing their identity and that they are becoming just another Chinese city. Hong Kong use to distinguish themselves because of their great wealth compared to the mainland but now with the rise of cities like Shanghai, Shenzhen and Beijing and others they are losing that distinction. And there for losing a part of what they see as their identity. And what they have left is there sense of "civic awareness" that they feel many mainland Chinese lack. And that has become their anchor of their "separateness" from the mainland Chinese. I'm sure that the boorish behaviour of some of the mainland tourists has effected public perceptions of China and the Chinese in Hong Kong. But what also anger a lot of the Hongkongese these days is their conspicuous consumption. Those mainland Chinese tourists are often richer than most of the Hongkongese! That is a cause of rancour with a lot of people in Hong Kong these days. Although those tourist are not representitive of the Chinese society as a whole as the overwelming majority there are still much poorer than the average Hongkongese. But this behaviour of the Hongkongese comes from them feeling and seeing themselves as being better and superior then their poorer mainland cousins. Now that some of the table's has turned that has caused a lot of rancour amongst the Hongkongese. You see the same thing happening in the West as well as they never expected China to become the power she is today. For the West China is not only an economic, political and strategic challenge but also an ideological one as well. It comes from the same sense of feeling themselves as being better and superior to the Chinese. The more succesful China becomes the more these people will despise her. Its like seeing the guy that stole your girlfriend win the lottery!

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OK, calling for people, despite how ridiculous their theology or ideology is, who are otherwise not committing any dangerous crimes (like killing innocent people, or calling for other races to be slaughtered) to be shot on sight is not acceptable dialog on SD.

Period.

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