Distrubing cult in China

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Blackstone

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There are bad apples in every barrel, and the so called “Almighty God” Christian cult has a Taiping feel to it. Hopefully, the Chinese government will swiftly eradicate the criminals, so Christianity could continue to grow in peace.

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China’s Other Religious Problem: Christianity

Signs of a crackdown on Christianity in China may increase the strength of more extremist, quasi-Christian groups.

The recent upswing in terrorist attacks in China, with militant Islamist groups like the Turkestan Islamic Party claiming responsibility, much of the conversation about religion in China is focused on Islam. Scholars debate how restrictions on the practice of Islam in Xinjiang may be related to an increase in fundamentalism (and terrorism). Meanwhile, others compare Uyghurs to China’s other largely Islamic minority group, the Hui, who are mostly integrated into Chinese society.

However, at the same time that China has declared its own “war on terror” with a year-long anti-terror crackdown, Beijing also seems poised to declare war on another religion: Christianity. Earlier this year, local authorities demolished the massive Sanjiang church building in Zhejiang province, citing violations of building regulations. Church members, though, said the effort was part of a coordinated crackdown on Christianity.

A New York Times article on the demolished church saw the event as the end of an informal truce between church and state in Zhejiang. Largely tolerated by the local authorities in years past, churches in Zhejiang have recently been ordered to remove crosses and other signs of the Christian faith. Others, like Sanjiang, have been demolished. The Times article, citing a provincial policy statement, says that it’s “clear the demolitions are part of a strategy to reduce Christianity’s public profile.” The policy paper explicitly urges officials to target churches using a pretext of “illegal construction,” exactly what happened to Sanjiang. “This is crucial to investigate and prosecute from the perspective of laws and regulations to avoid inviting heavy criticism,” the document said, according to NYT.

In Islam, it’s assumed that religious fundamentalists can prey upon feelings of religious oppression to convert others to their cause. Now a fringe group based on Christianity may be gaining popularity due to restrictions on the Christian faith in China. The Almighty God or Eastern Lightning group, defined by Chinese authorities as a cult, is estimated to have around one million members, despite (or perhaps because of) its alleged use of violent tactics. A 2013 profile of the group in Vice magazine highlighted the group’s tendency to convert members by infiltrating illegal house churches — places where Chinese Christians gather to avoid state meddling in their faith. These gatherings have become fertile ground for the extremist Almighty God group to recruit new members.

Like extremist Islamic groups, the Almighty God adherents have taken the Chinese state as their mortal enemy. The group, which has been around since the 1990s, gained notoriety in 2012, when members loudly declared the end of the world was coming. Their prophecy was accompanied by public protests and demonstrations, including against the Chinese Communist Party. Since then, the CCP has redoubled its effort to eradicate the group — including, according to Vice, crackdowns on house churches. As in Xinjiang, the CCP’s attempt to weed out a violent threat may be encouraging the very radicalization Beijing hopes to prevent.

The Almighty God group is in the news again this week, with Xinhua reporting that the cult was behind the fatal beating of a Chinese woman inside a McDonald’s in Shandong. According to Xinhua, “The victim was struck to the last bit of her life, simply because she refused to give her phone number to the six cult members who were trying to recruit her.” Xinhua’s report seems to presage a new crackdown on the Almighty God group, highlighting the “unusually cruel nature of the crime.” The article emphasized that China’s crackdown on “various evil cults” is intended “to prevent tragedies just like this one.”

Popular sentiment would certainly support such a crackdown. A video of the fatal beating and an interview with one of the remorseless perpetrators have both been widely circulated online, sparking furious reactions from netizens. But such a crackdown would likely target cult members and innocent Christians alike — similar to the problem in Xinjiang, where attempts to prevent religious fundamentalism have cuaght ordinary Uyghurs in their nets. Combined with the perception of a crackdown on Christianity itself in Zhejiang, Chinese authorities may compel more people to turn towards fundamentalist, and often violent, religious visions.

While the rising threat of terrorism has turned Beijing’s attention to Islam, it’s worth remembering that, historically, Christianity has been far more dangerous to Chinese leaders. The bloody Taiping Rebellion, which claimed over 20 million lives from 1850-1864, was based upon a quasi-Christian religious movement. That rebellion is credited with hastening the demise of the Qing Dynasty. More subtly, Christianity in China is linked to Western imperialism, where foreign missionaries and soldiers worked hand in hand to increase Western influence in the region. Even today, the CCP sees the Christian faith as an avenue of Western influence into the country, and thus a potential threat to the CCP-defined and sanctioned Chinese culture. And with estimates that there could be over 160 million Christians in China by 2025, the CCP may indeed be getting nervous enough to implement an anti-Christian crackdown. Beijing will have to careful, though, lest it inadvertently strengthen the ranks of fringe groups like Almighty God.
 
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solarz

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Re: Distrubing Christian cult in China

It would be unfair to label this cult as "Christian" just because they borrow the "brand" of Jesus Christ. The Taiping comparison is pretty apt, this cult is no more Christian than were the Taiping cultists.

China has a lot of problems with cults, and while it would be easy to blame it on the official atheist stance of the government, I am rather reminded of the 90's, when North America (and Western culture as a whole) also had a lot of cult problems.

I think it's the growing pains of a society beginning to discover new freedoms of belief.
 

Equation

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Re: Distrubing Christian cult in China

IMO they're a bunch of stupid psychos and wackos killing an innocent woman just because she refuse their demand to giver out her phone number so that they can harass her some more to joining their fanatic club.:mad: I would label them as religious terrorist if they insist calling themselves "Christians", even though they don't fit the label.
 

AssassinsMace

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Falun Gong is a cult but gets sympathy. That's the danger and why it's probably helps these cults under the guise of freedom of religion where they think they can be so bold. I've seen the video on Youtube and I just want all of the members of this cult to be shot on sight. They should get a taste of their own medicine. They're going kill someone because she didn't hand over her phone number. They should be executed just for existing.
 

Equation

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Re: Distrubing Christian cult in China

Falun Gong is a cult but gets sympathy. That's the danger and why it's probably helps these cults under the guise of freedom of religion where they think they can be so bold. I've seen the video on Youtube and I just want all of the members of this cult to be shot on sight. They should get a taste of their own medicine. They're going kill someone because she didn't hand over her phone number. They should be executed just for existing.

Falun Gong only gets sympathy by anyone whose interested in making China and the Chinese government weaker by showing how "inhumane" they are with human rights and such because of the government crackdown. What's laughable is that these same people didn't even know that the original founder of the Falun Gong cult was anti-gay and anti-marriages of mix race couples.
 

AssassinsMace

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What's laughable is that these same people didn't even know that the original founder of the Falun Gong cult was anti-gay and anti-marriages of mix race couples.

That's for the future when they help them take over so they can have new things to complain about.
 

Blackstone

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Re: Distrubing Christian cult in China

Falun Gong only gets sympathy by anyone whose interested in making China and the Chinese government weaker by showing how "inhumane" they are with human rights and such because of the government crackdown. What's laughable is that these same people didn't even know that the original founder of the Falun Gong cult was anti-gay and anti-marriages of mix race couples.

Interesting titbit on Falun Gong, did they originate in Japan as a branch of Shinto?
 

solarz

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Interesting titbit on Falun Gong, did they originate in Japan as a branch of Shinto?

No. Their founder is Li Hongzhi, who read some buddhist texts and decided to invent his own religion. Do a google search for more details.
 
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Cults develop when societies go through big and/or fast changes where the threshold is raised for people to comprehend and adapt to them. The larger number of people who are unable to do so buy into the easier to grasp and reassuringly controlling concepts proposed by cult leaders who if not for their followings would just be another crazy on a street corner or a used car salesman.
 

MwRYum

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Re: Distrubing Christian cult in China

Falun Gong only gets sympathy by anyone whose interested in making China and the Chinese government weaker by showing how "inhumane" they are with human rights and such because of the government crackdown. What's laughable is that these same people didn't even know that the original founder of the Falun Gong cult was anti-gay and anti-marriages of mix race couples.

What's disgust me most is that there's no lacking of such cultists and supporters in Hong Kong, which makes me more convinced that the sooner Beijing declare marshal law in HK and crack down on those morons hard, the better it'd be for all of us.

Hong Kong is full of cheats, crooks and charlatans, and because of all those "human rights" and "freedom of speech" obligations, they're allowed to fester.
 
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