Defeating China's Anti-Access Strategy: The US Perspective Part
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The US is prepared and contining to actively and agressively develop strategies and answers to the denial strategies that potential opponents develop.
The ASBM threat is, IMHO to this date, a paper tiger that has never been live fire, full-up tested against a manuevering vessel at sea. That is not to say it is not real, and has not been initially deployed...but I view all of that, until they demonstrate consistantly that they can hit a large manuervering taget 1000+ kms at sea, to be more of a Sun Tzu "Art of War," mis-direction campaign than a current, active techological threat. Cause your opponent to pause or to delay or reconsider his deployment and you have won half the battle.
Anyhow, the US continues to develop and fully test solutions to all of the strategies.
I still believe the best area denial strategy for any naval force is an effective, modern, sub-sruface attack force. The US has always been hard at work developing better and better ASW techiques and systems, but by their very nature they are not any type of blanket coverage and very quiet subs can and do slip through. When it comes to carrier protection or LHA/LHD protection, the risk of that is grave and very real...and fully teted.
You have to add Russia to the plan. It is useless to think that US + Southeast Asia against China, and Russia will sit by and do nothing. A plan needs to be realistic, not imaginary. It is nothing more than a Sun Tzu psychological war. If you have a plan, don't reveal it to the public. Keep it, and use it in battle time. that's real plan. This one is definitely Not.
Equation
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Why submarines Jeff? IMO they are too slow and not very maneuverable fast enough under water. Sure they can fire cruise missiles and torpedoes at ships, but other than being more stealthy or quiet under water, once it's engaged in combat they open themselves up to be located and tracked by ASW units such as helicopters and other surface combat ships to counter attack. I still believe speed is essential not only to attack but to evade as well.
thunderchief
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I must say , this supposed strategy is completely delusional . Unfortunately , US has now come to a stage of "failing empire" . Failing empires tend to resolve their internal conflicts and problems by trying to look strong externally . US has its own set of problems (economics , demographics , culture , public morale ... ) Instead of trying to solve them , US is attempting to project power on international stage . Happened before , from Romans to modern times and always ended up badly .
What is a main point of this "strategy" : lets create more bases in more countries , so we could deploy our troops there so we could encircle China . Unfortunately , US forces are now spread everywhere in the world . US economy cannot sustain that so government is forced to withdraw them without "finishing the job" . We saw that in Iraq and now in Afghanistan and partially Pakistan - those who were allies of Americans are now fearing for their own lives .
Japan , Korea , Taiwan , Vietnam , Philippines ... should take note . What ever happens China will still be there , in their neighborhood . And some day , sooner or later , Americans would have to go .It is better for them to craft friendly ties with China while they still can , instead to be left at China's mercy when their protectors Americans are gone .
What is a main point of this "strategy" : lets create more bases in more countries , so we could deploy our troops there so we could encircle China . Unfortunately , US forces are now spread everywhere in the world . US economy cannot sustain that so government is forced to withdraw them without "finishing the job" . We saw that in Iraq and now in Afghanistan and partially Pakistan - those who were allies of Americans are now fearing for their own lives .
Japan , Korea , Taiwan , Vietnam , Philippines ... should take note . What ever happens China will still be there , in their neighborhood . And some day , sooner or later , Americans would have to go .It is better for them to craft friendly ties with China while they still can , instead to be left at China's mercy when their protectors Americans are gone .
For submarines, it would take very good, quiet, and fast nuclear attack submarines to interdict a large carrier task force at sea.
They are dangerous because of both of their forms of attack, but principally because of their torpedo attack capability.
A few smaller cruise missiles are not likely to sink a carrier. A couple of large, heavy weight torpedoes which detonate under her keel have the possibility of doing so.
Now, granted there are a lot of defenses in terms of ASW...but they are not infallable, and a very good SSN has the possibility of showing up very close to and completely surprising a carrier unless they ASW defenses, both from other ships, from their own SSN, and from helos and aircraft are really on their toes.
And China is developing that capability. The Han Type 091s are not it. the Type 093s are better, but also not it...but with the Type 095s the PLAN may finally get a build of numerous SSNs that can pose such a threat.
TerraN_EmpirE
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Sorry It's not Here Yet. The Us still has A AA+ credit rating. Infact The PRC was just downgraded to AA-. The Current Growth rate might not be up but it's stable. The PRC rate is showing signs of Slowing. The Issues that paint The Goths at the gate of Washington DC are the Same issues as those faced by all the other members of the G8. The Us is not a falling Empire And Although china is rising she's stumbling.
Sorry It's not Here Yet. The Us still has A AA+ credit rating. Infact The PRC was just downgraded to AA-. The Current Growth rate might not be up but it's stable. The PRC rate is showing signs of Slowing. The Issues that paint The Goths at the gate of Washington DC are the Same issues as those faced by all the other members of the G8. The Us is not a falling Empire And Although china is rising she's stumbling.
thunderchief
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But unfortunately China doesn't need to borrow money and US does . In fact , US is borrowing money to contain China ... from China . Yep , that is going to work .
The current growing rate of US is negative if you count in dollar inflation .
Goths are not the problem. Gates of Washington are falling by themselves . Look at Detroit .
TerraN_EmpirE
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Detroit has been falling for decades. It fell into trouble back in the 1980s and has never recovered. Us Deflation Which is what is happening we have not been talking about Inflation for almost a decade now. Where in You devalue your currency to try and go aas low as you can go to get people to buy your goods is more or less the standard model Used by Japan, China, The EU... ecta...ecta... And China borrows money Internally Shifting money from what is working to what is failing.
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