CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Intrepid

Major
For the US, conventionally powered carriers in place of nuclear carriers makes even less sense. US ships have to cross vast distances to get to their theatres of operations and then stay resupplied there.
Chinese areas of interest are the routes for goods through the Mediterranean Sea or the Gulf of Mexico.

It's also far from the motherland.
 

AndrewS

Brigadier
Registered Member
Chinese areas of interest are the routes for goods through the Mediterranean Sea or the Gulf of Mexico.

It's also far from the motherland.

The Mediterranean is just too far to influence unless you have local bases.

Plus the Gulf of Mexico is just too close to the US. Even bases in Cuba wouldn't help
 

reservior dogs

Junior Member
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There is a difference between sea control and sea denial.

Submarines are fine for sea denial.

But if you are talking about breaking a distant blockade, you need forces which have presence to control the seas and allow cargo ships to run. That means surface ships and locally based airpower.
You need to consider the likely scenario, not the worst case scenario, when planning your military budget. Clearly, trade in the Pacific is mainly with U.S., so it will not be blockaded. Trade through the Indian Ocean is with Europe and the Gulf states. The U.S. will not blockade trade with Europe since they are our allies. Blockading the oil trade is also unlikely because, China has land supplies via Russia. China can also quickly create land supplies or a short hop through the sea from Iran to Pakistan. If China provide a missile shield, the blockade will fail. If China has, say, four CSGs, and keep them close by, it will have far more availability when it needs them in a blockade compared to the U.S. fleets because they don't need to go half way around the world in their normal operations. The idea of a blockade is a fanciful idea. If it is advantageous, it would have happened by now. The further into the future, the less likely it becomes because balance between the U.S. and China narrows in all areas.
 

Intrepid

Major
Plus the Gulf of Mexico is just too close to the US. Even bases in Cuba wouldn't help
The Gulf of Mexico is as far from the US as the South China Sea is from China. American aircraft carriers cruise in the South China Sea. Then, with a Chinese Navy of equal strength and, above all, equipped with the same rights and the same behavior, their aircraft carriers will cruise in the Gulf of Mexico.
 

Pesho1991

New Member
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Anything new around the 003? I know it is Chinese New year, but are things soo dead in China right now, that we don't get any news?
 
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