CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

[H2O]

I think it has to do with space. The drydock where the parts are to be assembled have been enlarged from its original size. This took a lot of space from the yard right next to the drydock, which means that there are not enough yard space to fabricate the parts. That's why they have to be fabricated elsewhere, and then moved to the drydock.

Yes the slipway hanger will limit on how much can be done. I was expecting the shipyard to build up to the waterline (or hanger's maximum height) and do as much of the internal work before moving it to the final assembly area. Honestly, I don't understand why this shipyard wanted to follow their British counterpart. They don't have the same constraints as the British.

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[jimmyjames30x30]

Yes the slipway hanger will limit on how much can be done. I was expecting the shipyard to build up to the waterline (or hanger's maximum height) and do as much of the internal work before moving it to the final assembly area. Honestly, I don't understand why this shipyard wanted to follow their British counterpart. They don't have the same constraints as the British.

It could be that the entire shipyard has many future expansion plan, in which this fabrication yard is just a part of. This makes sense, because shipyard expansion project should not be design around fulfilling the need of just building a class or two of aircraft carriers.

 

[Tyler]

It could be that the entire shipyard has many future expansion plan, in which this fabrication yard is just a part of. This makes sense, because shipyard expansion project should not be design around fulfilling the need of just building a class or two of aircraft carriers.

They are probably accommodating for serial production of full size CV.

 

[Tam]

It could be that the entire shipyard has many future expansion plan, in which this fabrication yard is just a part of. This makes sense, because shipyard expansion project should not be design around fulfilling the need of just building a class or two of aircraft carriers.

Highly likely. Gearing up to mass produce 400 meter long box ships and bulk carriers, like Big Macs off McDonald's.

Why are mega commercial ships in demand despite the global down turn? Think about it.

When you have less business, you want more consolidation of scale as much as possible.

You want less smaller ships in the sea, and instead, fewer bigger ships handling the same or less volume of cargo. The less ships carrying the same amount of cargo, the cheaper the cost of freight. Less crew costs --- each monsters are more automated, smart and robotic every year, so less crews, and less fuel costs, that comes with more efficient engines. There are less maintenance going with these newer ships too, and the costs to insure every trip is lower with newer, safer, ships.

In addition, places like the EU are putting carbon taxes, and unlike other products, a ship has to conform with all the national regulations for every port and country it can visit. That means ever tightening emission regulations that has to be answered with improving technology on the newest ships.

 

[Tam]

They are probably accommodating for serial production of full size CV.

To continue what I was saying, drydocks already used to produce the biggest commercial ships, can easily fit full size CVs with margin. Building CVs will be of collateral benefit of the new facilities, which can be used to build new mega sized box ships and bulkers, and once in a while, a new CV. About one third of Jiangnan is only military, the rest is commercial. Next door is a huge shipyard by Hudong Zhonghua that is dedicated for commercial production, leaving the comparatively small, old facility in the Hudong River for military production, like you know, making Type 075s. The test ship 892 is usually there, and previous to that, 071s.

 

[Deino]

This most recent image showing the Type 003 aircraft carrier construction site at the Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai on 11th June ... and indeed, the carrier is gone.

(Image via @lqy99021608)

 

[Bhurki]

This most recent image showing the Type 003 aircraft carrier construction site at the Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai on 11th June ... and indeed, the carrier is gone.

(Image via @lqy99021608)


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Stealth, taken to the extreme.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

This most recent image showing the Type 003 aircraft carrier construction site at the Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai on 11th June ... and indeed, the carrier is gone.

(Image via @lqy99021608)


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So where is it? And what's being done with it?

 

[Intrepid]

So where is it? And what's being done with it?

Look!

The small modules were brought close to the building dock in order to join them together.

 

[banjex]

Highly likely. Gearing up to mass produce 400 meter long box ships and bulk carriers, like Big Macs off McDonald's.

Why are mega commercial ships in demand despite the global down turn? Think about it.

When you have less business, you want more consolidation of scale as much as possible.

You want less smaller ships in the sea, and instead, fewer bigger ships handling the same or less volume of cargo. The less ships carrying the same amount of cargo, the cheaper the cost of freight. Less crew costs --- each monsters are more automated, smart and robotic every year, so less crews, and less fuel costs, that comes with more efficient engines. There are less maintenance going with these newer ships too, and the costs to insure every trip is lower with newer, safer, ships.

In addition, places like the EU are putting carbon taxes, and unlike other products, a ship has to conform with all the national regulations for every port and country it can visit. That means ever tightening emission regulations that has to be answered with improving technology on the newest ships.

Yeah there's a similar trend among freight railways: trains are getting longer and heavier with higher utilization rates (fewer empty cars and more container double berthing) and smaller crews. EDIT: also with commercial airlines as smaller planes are being replaced with a lower number of larger ones; while flights are consolidated and move more people per plane in one go.