CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

[Blitzo]

They made a quite nice , closed flow in the commercial part of the business, and the small naval ship part of the business nicely closed as well.
They make the warships in the open area, or in the building, after finishing them they transport them to the fitting basin thought the dock with the barge , and when they finished they let them go.

Now, the description given by you showing something that means the moving the half finished ship to the commercial dry dock (to a low security area ) , way away from the new buildings and new area ( presume those make carrier/capital ship parts ) , and after moving back the ship to the fitting area.

See? there is a lot of unnecessary movement, with lot of resources and risk each time.

Yet the current understanding is that they still chose that method.

Assuming they are rational, there must be some reasons and benefits for why they made that choice which we do not know about.

 

[AndrewS]

They made a quite nice , closed flow in the commercial part of the business, and the small naval ship part of the business nicely closed as well.
They make the warships in the open area, or in the building, after finishing them they transport them to the fitting basin thought the dock with the barge , and when they finished they let them go.

Now, the description given by you showing something that means the moving the half finished ship to the commercial dry dock (to a low security area ) , way away from the new buildings and new area ( presume those make carrier/capital ship parts ) , and after moving back the ship to the fitting area.

See? there is a lot of unnecessary movement, with lot of resources and risk each time.

Moving blocks is actually very cheap when compared to the actual fabrication, assembly and construction.

And with the Queen Elizabeth Aircraft Carriers, we saw 7 shipyards building blocks all over the UK.
Plus those blocks were travelling thousands of km to the final assembly point

So how much risk is there moving them around the same shipyard?

 

[asif iqbal]

Moving blocks is actually very cheap when compared to the actual fabrication, assembly and construction.

And with the Queen Elizabeth Aircraft Carriers, we saw 7 shipyards building blocks all over the UK.
Plus those blocks were travelling thousands of km to the final assembly point

So how much risk is there moving them around the same shipyard?

agreed hardly any

 

[taxiya]

dry-dock time is extremely expensive, considering the time can be used to build commercial ships which makes big profit, and all these Chinese shipyards are world class commercial ship builders besides their military work.

Remember how many times the Indians have to move their CV in and out the dock? Why? Because they can't afford the CV's delay to bankrupt them.

The Chinese approach is to minimize the money "loose" due to the warship occupying the dock unnecessarily. It is a perfect approach not to let military being a burden or less of it.

 

[Anlsvrthng]

dry-dock time is extremely expensive, considering the time can be used to build commercial ships which makes big profit, and all these Chinese shipyards are world class commercial ship builders besides their military work.

Exactly.

The QE spent more than two years in drydock, and the Newport News has to have two drydock for carriers, one for the new one, the other for maintenance.

So, If China goes for the dry dock number 4 then that will be tied up more likely permanently for carriers ,considering that they wants to make many of them.

And the current investment of infrastructure is not cheaper than to build a drydock for carriers in the current basin.

There is a huge crane anyway, dredged area and so on.


Using up the drydock #4 cut back the capacity of the civilian shipyard to 75% .

 

[Intrepid]

I think, they will build a drydock later. There is still enough

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at the southern tip of Changxing Island, which had to be abandoned by the residents.

 

[Tyler]

I think, they will build a drydock later. There is still enough

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at the southern tip of Changxing Island, which had to be abandoned by the residents.

Those are valuable arable land.

 

[AndrewS]

Those are valuable arable land.

It's a small piece of low value farmland. In the bigger picture, a drydock is way more valuable.

And looking at the aerial views, I'm surprised at how much farmland still remains unbuilt elsewhere in Shanghai Municipality

 

[Hendrik_2000]

Via Icloo

Both Module blocks have moved. Note that the first component for the 3rd module has been hoisted into place. And the dredging of the harbour basin is in well progress.

Via LKJ86 the latest photo of the basin

 

[Sczepan]

Good find. I'll correct myself.

The 1st Chinese Carrier: Type 001, Carrier Number 001, Ship Liaoning, and Hull Number 16
The 2nd Chinese Carrier: Carrier Number 002
The 3rd Chinese Carrier: nothing atm

That still does not make the 2nd Chinese Carrier Type 001A or the 3rd one Type 002, though.

you're Right in Carrier Number 002:

look at 0:53 … and interesting commented:
这002航母，但不是002型，是001A型，在建的第二艘国产常规动力电子弹射航母才是002型，二逼小编！